Jo Setchell

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230 appearances 3 recordings 3 series first heard Dec 2025 last heard 29 Jun

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The Infinite Monkey Cage · Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell · 17 Dec 2025 podcast

So if we talk about females, I'm female.

Many female primates clearly show signs of orgasm.

So again, if we assume that orgasm is fun because for individuals it seems to be fun, then yeah, they're having fun.

They also seek out sex.

Both males and females seek out sex.

Not all the time.

And it varies between the individuals, but they seek it out, which suggests that it's fun.

Loads of reasons for having sex.

So, yes, of course, sex in order to reproduce, but loads of other reasons too.

the solo element of it suggests that that must be fun it can't be doing it because it thinks it's going to lead to a baby so it must be enjoying itself yeah so evolutionarily perhaps there obviously is a link to reproduction but there's a link to many other things too in some case social bonds um in some between males and females between males males between females and females and so on but yeah definitely i think we as far as we know it's fun

So, first of all, there are plenty of same-sex relationships in the monkey world.

I suppose also we should say that when we come to talking about same-sex relationships in humans, whether or not animals do that is completely irrelevant.

But if we want to look and determine whether animals do it, primates do it, yes, lots.

It varies across the species, but yeah, a lot.

It's everywhere in the natural world.

Absolutely.

Oh, well, I would never get away with calling it a loving relationship in a scientific article, I don't think.

Maybe people will in future.

But when you write the popular book, that's different.

Which feels weird and against... This is very culture-bound, historically time-bound phenomenon.

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