Jodi Kantor

You know, we could spend like the next hour, Tim, we could do a super extended, we could do the longest version of this podcast ever discussing like all the negatives to this employment environment.

But it's not that helpful because young people already know the negatives.

The interesting question is, what are they supposed to actually do?

Like, what does it look like to have a positive and productive response to what's going on?

Oh, my God.

I mean, the entire book is but there's one paragraph I want to read you because this is like, look, if you don't read this book, fine.

But I want I want you to have this one paragraph if you are listening to this and have either are trying to start or have a young person in your life who's trying to start.

Do not give up before you even start.

Frustration and disappointment are certain.

Failure is possible.

But if you abdicate the search for satisfaction now, you will put it further out of reach.

Resist the urge to arm yourself with uninformed cynicism.

Masking is oh so wise pragmatism.

It's really just good old fear of rejection.

We do not yet know what the world will offer you.

You know, Tim, I don't know about you, but I fell down the rabbit hole of watching all the videos from the astronauts who recently went to the moon.

And it was because like, it was the most positive display of work I had seen in the culture for a long time.

It was so refreshing and inspiring.

And like, imagine if those people gave up before they started, right?

Imagine if they just said like,