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Jodi Kantor

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1526 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

We've got 25 years worth of allegations ready to go.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

But as you know, Tim, it is critical to be fair to everybody with a story like this, including even Harvey Weinstein, who was doing โ€“

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Crazy stuff, like not only threatening the New York Times, but he hired this Israeli firm comprised of ex-intelligence agents to try to spy and dupe me and others.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

So even to someone treating you that horribly...

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

You have to be like very fair.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

And it's really, these are serious charges.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

You have to give somebody real time to respond.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

So we have a big debate about how much time we're going to give him because we don't want him to take advantage of us or cause any funny business.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

And we finally do it over the phone.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

And we scripted it out beforehand.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

And I read him most of the allegations that we were preparing to publish.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

And he hired a huge PR and legal team.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

And when you're being read that, your job is so obviously to stay quiet.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Your lawyers are like,

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Don't say anything.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

And Weinstein just could not help himself.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

He responded a lot in the moment.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

He responded like even more in his official statements.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

You know, as a reporter, you get statements, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Like when you're writing something bad about somebody, they give you a statement.