Jodi Kantor

The statement he gave us is, I really have to say, a classic of the genre is,

Because he referenced like his bar mitzvah and Jay-Z and there was like contrition, but also denial.

And it was all mixed up with Weinstein's like statements to us personally.

He, um,

he lectured Megan and I a lot about journalism in the course of this confrontation.

You know, it's like going from like threatening us to telling us how much he loves the New York Times and can't live without it, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

So anyway, it was a very dramatic scene.

But, you know, even with all of that like drama going on in his response, what you're listening for as a reporter is, does he have any substantive challenge to our reporting?

Like Megan and I are sitting there saying,

we've got really powerful material here.

We believe it.

There's a lot of evidence.

It seems really well-founded, but let's listen out for any problems, right?

Like let's listen out for anything in his response that causes us to rethink or want to check something we've reported.

And there was nothing.

Oh, yeah, we were mansplained.

We were absolutely mansplained.

Yeah, exactly.

And...

I'll tell you another amazing thing about that confrontation is we had reported that his people had told his own company that over the years he had had 8 to 12 settlements to cover up allegations of sexual abuse.