Joe Apfelbaum

Bottom line, our bottom line margins.

So we were, we were, we had a very, a much smaller margin.

And we, we didn't, how much money was left?

About half a million dollars.

On four million top line?

Yeah.

I mean, that's not horrible.

but it's not the type of business that we want to have.

A lot of businesses can produce 10%.

A lot of businesses can purchase.

I want to be able to build a business that can produce 30%, 25, 30%.

And that's where we need to be in order for us to, to really have the value that, so I'd rather have a smaller business with it because we work with so many companies and there's so many companies out there that I personally know they're doing a hundred million dollars in revenue and losing $10 million a year.

Well, I don't want to be a hundred million dollar business that loses money.

I'm paying myself a salary plus bonuses.

I'm paying myself really, really well.

And I'm, I'm living a very, very good life right now.

Um, and, and I, you know, you, you asked the question at the end, you know, how many hours you sleep and all that, and we'll get to that, but I'm able to take paternity leave because I I'm able to do that.

I'm able to give my kids the time of the day.

I'm able to take all my kids to school every single day.

And for me, this is the type of business I always dreamed of having.