Joe House
Appearances
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
T-Mac could have, but Yao broke down on him. Yeah, Yao broke down.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
That makes me sad.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Murray, when he's healthy, is good. Christian Brown turned out to be good.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Their entire fate is tied to Jamal Murray's health. And we said this at the outset of the season. I'm not sure if I'm the only one, but I went under on them getting the 51 wins this season.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
I'm just saying we're talking about the Denver Nuggets.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
I don't know. The observation I'm making is that the concern at the outset of the season for me was Jamal Murray. Do you trust that he's going to be able to play at the level that this team requires through the balance of a season for them to get into the mid-50s and wins? And I didn't trust it at any time that he's not. He has been excellent, Jamal Murray, for a good stretch.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
And they won eight games going into the All-Star break.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Yeah, but you know. It was like, okay, so Denver is legit. So we love Denver at this level playing at that, you know, and then Gordon went out with some injuries and Michael Porter Jr. has been doing Michael Porter Jr. stuff. And we have too much time and too many high leverage moments where the basketball finds its way into Russell Westbrook's hands. But he just shouldn't play in crutch time.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
That's true. I almost don't blame Russell Westbrook. I don't either. I don't blame him.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
And it's like, you left the pantry open. He has to be on the floor doing that, though, because they are trying to do this rotating rest thing with their guys. I get it, too.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Oh, I'm here. I'm listening.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Hold on. I'm back. I'm out. Good.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
I don't – because it's ludicrous. The timing is ludicrous. The timing is ludicrous. There's nothing – I mean, Josh Kroenke said four times, we're going to see what we can squeeze. Squeeze the juice. We're going to see if we can squeeze some juice out of it. There ain't no juice, buddy. Your team ain't good enough.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
He should be squeezing – PEDs all the way around. He needs to be squeezing the leadership juice he should have squozed before the season started and sat down.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
he needed it needed to be squeezed before the season started they needed to come up with a game plan uh and not have this internal turmoil they got a best case scenario out of christian brown this this this season they did a very good scenario dodging the uh kcp bullet they got a very good scenario out of jamal murray honestly yeah i mean considering um his injury history
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
They have three max contract guys. They can't keep all three. They can't keep Aaron Gordon and Michael Porter Jr. and Jamal Murray and stay where they want to be.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
No, no, no. Flag, Sar, Porter? No. The new big three? No, no. I still wonder why didn't we hear more about them with Miami? Why was Miami not interested? I don't think Miami wanted any part of Michael Porter Jr. It must be. It must be right. Would you trade it for Michael Porter Jr. ? Would you want to pay him $40 million? He's redundant for that team anyway. He doesn't help them.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
I don't know. What do you think the price is? Because those guys, both the Clippers and Minnesota, super short prices as dogs. It must be that they think Memphis is going to be the eight because Memphis is plus 350. And honestly, that does make sense.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Let's price it, cuz, because let's say it's Houston against Minnesota. Right. They won't be an underdog to Minnesota. It'll be very close to even odds, don't you think? Right. They'll be a tiny favorite.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Yeah, yeah.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
I'm definitely betting on Minnesota. There's no two ways about it. I think that's how I feel about it, too. I guarantee you.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
that's a great question would who would you have favored in denver houston yeah so now you're talking i think houston's good i i'd be i'd be a little i'd bet minnesota but i don't think i'd put a lot of money on i saw too many games with houston where from the eight minute mark in the fourth quarter to the end of the game they turn flaccid did you see anything what they turn limp do you see anything of what um and thompson did to curry in that game though it was awesome
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Just to know the day that ends and why.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Absolutely awesome. I thought that was impressive.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
That's not nothing.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
We need to take a break for this podcast so I can go.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
I got to go make a bet.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
It could be both. I could do it in the bathroom. We did eat a lot of pizza today, cuz.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
It's just throwing money away.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
That would be the case. Memphis-Houston would be awesome. That would be an awesome series.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Absolutely, positively. I want no part of that. If Kawhi, it seems like I want us to knock on wood. There's some wood in this house. Some fine marble, I see, but I'm going to knock on some wood because we want Kawhi healthy for the first round. I don't think they're going to drop, though. The Clippers are playing... too well, and their last three games are reasonable for them.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
So here's the real value.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
You have to win three rounds. So this is to win the Western Conference. This is the bet.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Well, I mean, it is and it isn't. There is no precedent for teams firing their... We have now in 10 days two playoff teams with legit aspirations for getting to the Western Conference Finals firing their head coach.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
I like the way you're going.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
I think it's appropriate.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Yeah, Denver went a whole step further. They're like, we don't like... The internal turmoil of this identity crisis fight that we've been having for what feels like to me, 18 months now, at least between Calvin Booth and his instinct to try and build a team with young guys and Mike Malone, who has in front of him most of the pieces of guys that won an NBA championship a couple of years ago. Right.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Thank you.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Thank you.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
And this tension has been affecting this team for two years now.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
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The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
So that's the most important aspect of this. I think it's a great price for where he is in terms of his success this year. His biggest problem over this drought, this winning drought that he's in, he hasn't won in over two years, has been putting. He putted very poorly last season, and his putting has greatly improved. And his numbers, he's been competitive.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
I mean, he choked down the stretch two weeks ago in Tampa, Florida. He had a three-stroke lead. going into the final five holes and lost to Victor Holland who birdied two of the last three. So, I mean, it was, it was a sensible loss, but I love where JT is in terms of his off the T numbers. I love where he is in terms of approach.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
And the key thing for me is the price, because I don't think you're getting any return on Scotty Scheffler or Roy McIlroy. And I will pivot immediately. If one of those guys comes out and shoot 66 on Thursday, but JT at 22 to one, doesn't match up with the caliber and quality of his play thus far this season. So that's why I did it.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
No, he didn't talk to the press because he was waiting for the winner to finish, and he was waiting, and he was waiting, and he was waiting, and the tour never got him and said, come, you know, here's how we're going to sequence this. He just left. Very misunderstood. He signed all these autographs.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
I'm a Morikawa stan.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
I think he's a great bet. I have some Morikawa exposure. I just love the price for JT. That's the reason that I went with JT.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
That was nice.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
I won't go there. It was stunning. I can't overstate how, like the sequence of events. First of all, we walked all the way up 10 to get to the top of the hill to where all the social scene is happening. The media people, all that happens at the putting green where one and 10 come together. It's a big scene.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
He said, good call.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
But we had to stop halfway up because the Cousin Sal has never walked up 10. It's hard. It's a real walk.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
forgot it was like the denver nuggets bench with all the rookies we forgot that sal was a rookie and didn't realize we're just going uphill for an hour ridiculous walker by eating pizza and oysters that's how i dream but we went the sequence of events went from from that moment yeah and then we're up there and they're like hey but you know yeah there's sb baby doll takes charge it goes right oh he knows me he knows he's gonna fucking love this yeah
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
But cool brick fireplace. Amazing. It's a really it's a TV studio. It is completely like, you know, floor to ceiling outfit for perfect TV, you know, for video audio. It's like walking into, you know, any proper studio where you guys know how to do TV shows. I was surprised by that aspect. Yeah.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Yeah, Gus the native Matt. Yeah. Keeping his eye on things for us.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
So that's interesting because... We are in this era where we see athletes, you know, extend their career. And he has been very fortunate in terms of avoiding injury. He does seem like with his swing, he's been able to get more out of it. He hits the ball even further than ever in his 30s. And he doesn't have these injuries that pop up that much.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
So I think there's a window of time that I would say it's at least like five years. But your point is right. There is not a long history of Masters winners, you know, once you hit age 35.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
I would give him like six or seven.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
He's got some time. I'm not ready. This is the moment, though. This is a crucial moment. It's not going to be any better because he's never come into a Masters having won twice on American soil, and his numbers are through the roof in terms of the quality of his.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
It would be great. I'm rooting for it. I'll live bet it if he comes out. His biggest problem has been Thursday. He hasn't scored well on Thursday.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Hello, hello.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Well, you left out golden state and golden state who knew that they needed another piece and went and paid, you know, yeah, that's it.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Yeah, that's the one.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Thursday and Friday.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Great. I'll take Jon Rahm. Oh. And I'll take Justin Thomas. You got the best spot in the draft. Want to make the case? John Rahm is a complete wild card because he plays on the live tour. Now, he hasn't finished worse than sixth on any of his live events for the most part. But I like him this year as opposed to last year. He had a tie for 45th last year as the defending champion.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
And he was in disarray. His game was in disarray. His life was in disarray. He's calm now. Nathan gave me a very fine report of how he conducted himself at the press conference. He is poised. He's ready. He's locked in. I like that he played Doral last week. Tough golf course. Played well. You know, ready for a major.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
And then Justin Thomas is my pick to win this golf tournament because I love the odds of 22 to 1. But Thomas has been gaining strokes on approach for about nine months now. And the key with Justin Thomas is that his putting has greatly improved. Now he is playing with a new caddy. For the Masters, I hope it's the guy that Ben Crenshaw used.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
It's a what the hell is going on to me.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
We're on the 30th anniversary of Ben Crenshaw winning a 95. If he has that guy, you might have a chance. But I don't love the idea of a new caddy.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Crenshaw's caddy?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
All right.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
That's true. So what does firing the coach and GM have to do with the performance on the floor?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Again, let's do it precedent-wise. Point to a team... That's done this with a week to go? Yeah. In the last 30 years.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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I don't begrudge the instinct of wanting to do something to change the trajectory. But the problem is... It's the players. They're not good enough. They don't have a team that's good enough to compete, to your observation earlier, with the depth. They don't play defense. They haven't played defense in two months. That's why they have a losing record over their last 25, 30 games.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
What are you complaining about?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
It's why they're 5-9 over their last 14 games. Their last three games of the season.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
That tells you... It's all that you need to know about the team building effort.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
I don't blame him one bit. No. I mean, when you have the best player on earth... and you have most of the nucleus of a title-winning team, then the appropriate thing to do is try and, in the first place, defend that title, and then in the second place, try and win as many as you can while you have the best player in the world playing at the level that he's playing at.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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That seems like the right kind of decision, and I think that head coach built a game plan for the season, these last two seasons, around that thesis, around the idea of we should try really hard when we have this guy to be as good as we can in this moment. They just, I do think that this new collective bargaining agreement is a real culprit, is a real. The apron stuff.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
I wouldn't call Denver middle of the road. I wouldn't characterize.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Well, they're going to be middle of the road this season. They went for it last season, and I think they paid the price. I think that they flamed out the way they did because they saw the one seed as a viable possibility. They played balls to the wall at the end of the regular season, and it took a toll on them because Minnesota ran them out the gym.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
I don't like that whole kind of storyline and that dynamic because at the end of the day... Which part?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
The Coach GM part. The media part of it is perfectly fine, of course.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
You know that's coming. It was an open secret.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Matt Moore at the Action Network, who does a pod on Denver, has been talking about it. It's not a secret of that.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Internal tension. They've been observing it. It's more than tension. They didn't fucking talk. I don't like it because that's on Cronky. That's on Josh Cronky. They're like, somebody needs to be the boss. At least he owned it today. The boss is the boss, right? You see guys not getting along.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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You need to sit in a room and reconcile whatever the differences are because, again, you have the best effing player on the planet on your team playing at his absolute best. So the thing to do is try and – Capitalize on that. That would be my instinct. So how can everybody get along?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
From that moment on. When that story came out on The Ringer, which is what, 18 months ago, 16 months ago?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
Oh, right. That was ludicrous stuff.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Denver’s a Mess! Plus, Live at the Masters With the Simmons Crew
That makes me sad.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
No, we didn't bet it.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
I mean, I'll just interrupt you for a second. Another miracle. Daryl Morey and Nico Harrison both get rewarded. Two of the top three worst contract responsible for the worst outcomes in terms of their franchises during the course of this season. It's just a miracle that both of them land where they land.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
I mean, JKM had to use a real-life miracle to make the analogy to the miracle that we witnessed at the NBA.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
I mean, I had the good fortune of going on with Kyle on the NBA draft show last week, and he was very kind. He said, let's do a State of the Wizards. Within all reason, we think that they're going to get one of the top four picks, like at the very outside. You know what pick we didn't discuss under any circumstances whatsoever? The sixth fucking pick. We didn't talk about number six.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
You didn't talk about three teams jumping you? We didn't. We didn't.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
Well, because it's inconceivable, really.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
Topic number one. Did Dallas now win the trade?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
it really, you know, just makes you really wonder because it was a no-bid trade, right? It wasn't, he didn't go around and canvas the league. There's not a lot of evidence that other teams were consulted. What would you be willing to give up for Luka Doncic?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
I didn't, I didn't, do you notice the look on his face? Two things. Two things. First of all, there's no way that Nico doesn't take Cooper, right? That would be the funniest thing.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
Would that be the funniest thing?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
But the second thing is Dallas isn't a great fit for a brand new play. The only other young guy there, timeline-wise, is Lively. Like they're super in transition. They don't have a point guard. They don't have a starting point guard right now.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
Well, and the other thing with him, he just turned 18. Like, yeah, he grew because he just turned 18.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
That's the funniest.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
You know who is actively open-minded? Frank in White Lotus. Sam Rockwell. Yeah. He was actively open-minded. I was trying to think of a good one for that. If I had a couple more drinks tonight, I'd tell you about how actively open-minded I am.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
No offense. Great job. Great job, Giannis.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
You said Thailand. I put it out of the paper for a white guy who looked like me.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
They have a war chest of picks.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
Could you play him at small forward? Yeah.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
Why not? Totally agree. I think that's honestly the best spot for him to get his NBA feet wet.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
Because I want to hear Kyle's defense of Cooper's defense. If he's going to play that shooting guard spot, you know, that small forward spot. Larry Bird played it. He's outguarding... He's out guarding perimeter players in the modern NBA with the slash ability of a lot of the modern NBA.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
Oh, the last Dallas thing. House mentioned earlier, they made the playing game and won the lottery. They were in the playing game and won Cooper flag. What if Memphis had just beat them?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
No, they Memphis did beat them. That's how they, that's how they ended up in the lottery.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
I can't remember now. We bet on Dallas definitely to beat Sacramento. But then I think I laid away because the Memphis game was in Memphis and it was like a chance for Memphis to prove that the whole season wasn't a waste. So I think we decided to stay away.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
for you the hard thing is like what are you trying to tell your fans isn't it better to tell your fans we had an awesome run Giannis was with us the title that he delivered we had a once in a generation once in a lifetime player here he was loyal he hasn't done anything wrong he committed he extended he extended they tried to build a good team for him to compete
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
If he goes, I think it's better to just be brutally bad. I just think it's better to start over. As many picks as you can get.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
They have to get as many picks as they can. That's what I'm saying. They need every pick that they can get. and just jettison everybody? Because otherwise, what's the point of 32 wins? What's the point of... Is Castle and Harper on basically the same timeline? Is that a good starting point? Does that prime the pump a little bit for what a rehab rebuild looks like?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
That's the bummer. We were being treated finally in this game four to the mano-a-mano that we basketball fans deserve. We were waiting for a Brunson game, and then Tatum was there to match him blow for blow, shot for shot, and that fourth quarter was getting very exciting down that stretch there, and that's it. It's over.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Tatum Suffers a Devastating Injury, and Dallas Wins a Wild NBA Lottery With J. Kyle Mann and Joe House
So you had for player comps, Ron Harper.
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And Fox is a tremendous trade asset. It's kind of stupid. They just acquired him. I'm already ready to trade him, but I am ready to trade him.
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The season's over for the Celtics, and who knows what happens over the summer and next season.
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You both made faces.
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The Sixers really earned it. The Sixers really have a vision with their franchise. This is my one question, and I guess I'll go into the Philly message boards to get this. What's the track record for this iteration of the Philadelphia coaching staff? In terms of development, because either Ace or Newcomb, those are both development players. They're not NBA ready.
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In my humble opinion, they can come in and be on the floor, but they're not NBA competitive ready. So what is in the first place? Philadelphia has to answer. Who are we? What are we going to do this upcoming season? Are we going to try and, you know, make a deep run in the playoffs or is this a transition year?
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And then question two, how are we going to develop this kid that we're going to get at number three?
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Love that. Love that. That is, that's a Daryl Morey.
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What about, I mean, Miami needs it more. I don't know.
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They have nothing. Miami has nothing.
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It's late night on the BS pod. Can I say that? He's the white fit. I mean, you go from Dirk to Luka to Cooper. There's a certain through line, a certain commonality there that seems like it might suit the situation.
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No. Let's set the over-under for number of games he plays in the regular season, 2025, 2026. I'll set it at 35 and a half. How are you? He's what? 31?
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Does it matter? I don't know. 30, 31, 32, whatever he is.
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Fourth pick, Charlotte.
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Because I thought we were going to get one, two, or three. I was saving my edge. I was like, oh, downside scenario. I don't want to jinx it. I don't want to look at the guy who's going to get taken fourth because my team's not going to be drafting fourth. So, no, I haven't looked at him.
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I'm super in on him. He can play basketball. He's a hooper. He's a hooper. I love that he's always trying to get to the paint. He's not like dilly-dallying out here. Let me see. No, man's going downhill. He's trying to get to the paint. He's welcoming the contact. He's got that big body, 6'7", 220. That's a baller.
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And, you know, his instincts in terms of offensive rebounding, I don't know what the numbers are. I'd let Kyle share. I just felt like he was always around the basket when Duke needed, you know, a hand on a ball, a tip, something like that. Big KK fan.
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Let's get Utah to send us... I'm going to have him on. I've got to have him on. I want a Knipple jersey. Get Utah to send us a Knipple jersey.
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No, I'm waiting because I am going to surprise you. Please complete your thought.
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I fucking love model watch. Not only do I love him, this is an honest, honest to God truth. I tried to make the case for him during the NCAA tournament because of how impactful he was controlling the defensive boards and his shop blocking early in the tournament.
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I tried to convince my guys on East coast bias to join me on like, I think it was like 175 to one for him to win a most outstanding player in the final four, because the way that he can control the, the on defense, the impactfulness is, I think it's an incredible fit. He's exactly on the timeline that these young guys are on. They're all basically the same age, between 18 1⁄2 and 20 1⁄2 at best.
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And what they are missing is indeed a defensive presence, a low post, shot blocker, rim protector. Kassar wants to be out on the perimeter, and that's fine. His feet are good. He can go out and defend threes and fours a little bit. And Koulibaly... you know, if he, if he just needs, he needs a little more ass on him. I might have to take him out eating, uh, here in DC.
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I got some spots for him, some calories for the man.
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Absolutely, you can.
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I'd be surprised. I'm bullish on him.
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Oh, now I have him fifth.
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Yeah, there's going to be two guys that climb, right?
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I love it.
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Yes.
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Well, no, no, it wasn't. with respect to any particular player that may be there. My suggestion was there was an artistic rendering for sort of each player. And my recommendation to Kyle was for six, for Washington, for them falling there, just do a pencil etching of my butthole. Just put that in there. You don't need the face of any player there.
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Yeah, man. It's my birthday. It's for another 45 minutes.
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I should probably have known that since we've been friends since 1998. We're old, man. We were good as middle-aged. We don't be counting. We made it to another birthday house. I know it's another excuse to go grab a couple of drinks. I'll tell you that much. And I did have a couple. And then I doubled when I saw that we fell to six. But we're in good shape.
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He did. A pencil etching of my butthole.
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They were good. But the key, and I'm not here to rub it in anybody's face, if Porzingis isn't effective, then the Celtics, it makes it super duper hard for them to compete. They just don't have enough dudes. The Hauser injury turns out to be really impactful. And if Porzingis is this version of Porzingis, then it's tough because the Knicks do have... Six dudes. They have six.
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That's exactly the number. They don't have more. Maybe even just call it five and a half. But they are dudes. They're all dudes. And look, here's the crazy thing to me. I'm looking at the numbers here. How did the Knicks get up 13 more shots? They had 13 more attempts from the field. I know. That's right. They beat them by 12 on the boards. That's the answer.
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It's crazy because the turnovers were pretty even. And the Celtics were getting to the free throw line. That wasn't an issue. And they both shot, you know, good from three, 38% for the Celtics, 35% for the Knicks. Those are good, good numbers, but 13 more attempts because the Knicks own the boards. And this is the second consecutive game where that happened.
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And, you know, it just goes, it's very basic. It goes, it comes back to like, you know, your dudes, who's going to go get a rebound when you need it.
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Well, that offense fed into a run by the Knicks. The Knicks scored 70 points in the second half. They had 37 points in the third quarter.
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The shame of it is the Celtics should have just tanked down the stretch, got themselves into the play and lost in the play in game and then used a half of a percent chance. chances. It's a miracle what happens in the NBA. Miracles happen, Bill Simmons.
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Well, it was a flat 14% for the three worst teams. That's how they flattened out the odds to disincentivize egregious tanking. But, you know, we're allowed to curse on this thing. Please curse. It doesn't fucking matter. It doesn't fucking matter that the fat thumb comes out when the fat thumb comes out. Now, I certainly understand, you know, there's a code and it's impossible to rig the balls.
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except for the last 30 fucking years have had a stunning number of miracles. I mean, let's go back to 2011 when the NBA owned the motherfucking New Orleans Hornets and somehow, miraculously, they find an owner. David Stern vetoes a trade for Chris Paul to go to the Lakers because it's going to tilt the competitive balance of the league incredibly. David Stern vetoed it for basketball reasons.
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They finally find a buyer for the new Orleans Hornets. Somebody steps in and buys it from the NBA. Lo and behold, the new Orleans Hornets get the number one overall draft pick in the league. And it's Anthony Dave. Can you believe it? Can you believe the good luck of the, I mean, we'll just go through it.
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I mean, I didn't forget. I'm just saying, I, I don't know. I don't want to subject us to the entire litany here, but I did have Tim Donahue with me downstairs, helping me remember some of these things. We're kind of mapping out, you know, some of the very interesting, it's really a league of, of, of miracles. This, this NBA of ours, uh,
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But, you know, yes, New Orleans trades Anthony Davis to the Lakers and miraculous. It's another miracle. I mean, you know, a league full of miracles. They jump. New Orleans jumps from the seventh spot in terms of the pre-draft where they should have been right up to the number one.
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But first of all, you're a son of a bitch who said that this was all going to happen back in March.
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Super realistic.
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Well, you didn't have me on to help steer you, so there's no one to blame. You put one in your KC for that, Bill?
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I could have jumped on the phone.
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That would be... Milwaukee. Indiana. So...
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Detroit's making a push, by the way. Let's not rule out Detroit.
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Every time you put one out, I ride.
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We've done coaches before.
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Doesn't matter.
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So I quite love it. And I'll just interject quickly. I think it would be fine if we wanted to rename this worst contract. We just call it the Bradley Beal Memorial worst contract and just do it every year. Name this for Bradley Beal, like arguably one of the worst contracts in the history of bad contracts in the NBA.
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That was only $27 million.
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I begged for them to do that with John Wall when they gave John Wall the giant extension.
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The reason that Beal deserves this top billing is because he set two franchises back a grand total of how many years? It'll be at least 14 to 15 years if you add up the number of years that Washington is going to take to recover and be competitive and how long it will be before Phoenix is competitive again. That's truly amazing. You've got to give it up to Tommy Shepard for that one.
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Right before the extension. It was before the extension.
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He definitely, Russell Westbrook single-handedly dragged the Wizards into the playoffs. So he played four games as they got their asses swept in that series. And then I don't know how many, has he played three, four games for the Suns?
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How's your next pick? Well, this is so I respect was because he's a traditionalist. He went with the OG here. This is an out of slightly out of left field. But, you know, this this guy changed. He altered the course of two franchises. Speaking of, you know, a five to 10 year recovery window for one franchise and another franchise that's going to enjoy.
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It should be at least another decade of prosperity. It's it's Nico Harrison. I mean, what Nico Harrison? I don't know how much money that man made. And I know that he is going to I hope he's beefing up on on the current offering of Nike sneakers or whatever, because that man is going to return to the sneaker business. He is. There is no franchise in the NBA that he can go to now.
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There are no more jobs for him in terms of of a front office. How do you tell your fan base? Yeah, well, even quietly. Yeah, we brought him in because he's got this relate. No, you know, no, no. This is his last job in a front office. And I keep looking for the definitive economic impacts like nobody's done the soup to nuts of of how much money it will cost the Dallas Mavericks just over the next.
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five years, I think it's going to take much longer than that for them to properly recover because of what happened to Kyrie. But at the very, very lowest conservative estimate, it is a billion dollars. It is a billion dollars in diminished value for that Dallas franchise. When you think about the impact on revenue from attendance, okay, fine. All of that is getting walloped.
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The revenue that they're going to get, they're an over-the-air franchise. you know, in their local broadcast. They don't have a regional sports network that they're on. They switched that. How are they going to get advertisers to pay anything for people to watch those games? Right. Merchandise partners. How do you tell them? What are you going to tell those people?
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So on down the line, you can go through six or seven or eight categories, the ways the team make money, the way that the teams have cash flow. Wallet, just take it right off. I think the ultimate economic impact is going to be between a billion and a half and two billion dollars.
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And think of how remarkable it is in this era where in every sport we look at them, we say the best investment that a rich person can make is in a professional sports franchise because no franchise ever goes down in value. This motherfucker. Look at the alchemy he performed here. He took the golden goose and turned it into a golden pile of shit. Magnificent.
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That is the worst contract in professional basketball.
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No, no, no, no, no. Nobody will ever rival Bradley Beal. We really should change the name of this. Bradley Beal has a no trade clause. Like the impact of the Bradley Beal contract on the face of the league over the last, you know, seven or eight years. Just unbelievable. Mind-blowing, dearly.
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I have a question. I have a serious question because that trade was immediately followed by the Lakers trying to acquire Mark Williams and then for whatever reason having cold feet about that. You mean when they backed out?
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They used the physical. Dallas acquired a hurt player and then got him hurt. And somehow he passed the physical. So I would like at some point to understand. Oh, I like this house.
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You've also set open to the entire league the possibility that Luke is available. Let's see that auction. Let's see how the rest of the league responds to that. Let's have a proper. I thought there was a possibility. I put it in the text threads within the first 12 hours that there was this crazy Machiavellian play. I wish that that's what had come to pass.
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But what Dallas did is prove to all of us. They showed their ass in terms of their inability to run very basic downside cases. Like, here's the hope for outcome.
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kairi's awesome ad's injury is behind him we have all these giant guys we're going to be good and um we're going to really compete this year then we have a window but the downside case that any sensible like rational business person would conduct is what happens if ad's injury is is lingering or you know um can't be overcome quickly How does that impact the rest of the team?
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How does that impact directly Kyrie? What's our assessment of the injury risk to Kyrie going forward? What happened to Dallas is not extraordinary. It's the downside case. But now, now the rational basketball response, the only thing that would make sense and possibly win the fans back, they got to throw Niko into the bushes. They got to trade AD. Niko needs to move.
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Yeah, I'm betting on it. No way.
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No way. Yeah. Absolutely not.
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Well, I mean, gambling on it and it coming to pass are two different things. Of course I'll gamble on it. I'm kidding.
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Under any circumstances. Can you remind me, you did this outstanding podcast with the executive producer of White Lotus, David Bernard. And he described this phenomena. He said one of the best pieces of advice he ever got was from, I can't remember who the famous person was that gave him this advice. It had to do with, you know, you get inside of, was it the monkey cage? What was it?
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It was inside.
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You grow so acclimated to the smell of the shit that you cannot identify that there's a bad thing, that you're in a bad environment situation. So for me, the problem with the Sixers goes all the way back to... to what I will forever argue was an ill-advised and ill-conceived return to the playoffs by Embiid. He wasn't ready. He wasn't healthy. We know this. Waz is right.
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He had a 50-point game in the first game in Philadelphia. I went up there and watched it. It was awesome. But he also had many dramatic moments where he went down on the floor and stayed on the floor for several minutes and then went to the locker room and then came back.
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That whole situation of him coming back to the playoffs and playing under the highest leverage situation in the shape that he was in with his knee and the condition it was in. And then you go from that to the Olympics, which are barely six weeks later and even less than that when you consider the training and the USA team says, look.
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It's on the player to make the decision about the player's health. And what we saw from him looked like a competent Joel Embiid. Now, he had some impactful moments.
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Right, right. And so we come off of that, and that's the moment. when the extension is given after the Olympics. And Windhorse had a great story this week about some of the decision-making and some, they went, you know, the Sixers talked to every single knee specialist in the world and got the input.
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They wanted the assurance. The problem with the extension is what the fuck was the rush? Like, right. How about him just play the season? See what happens. Now, Maury said the quote that Windhorse attributed to him was like, we didn't want to arrive in the summer of 25 and have the uncertainty, the potential chaos of him going somewhere else. And my question is, why the fuck not? Why not?
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If we were gambling on this before, like, what do you think is more likely? He retires in the next two years or he makes it to the third year of that contract? Oh, he's going to make it to the third year.
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We are in the situation with this worst contract draft where we have one guy who costs his team like a billion and a half dollars and another guy that costs his team $500 million. And both of those franchises are looking at a decade of pure effing misery coming up. Yeah.
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Wonderful.
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we had this argument in october when we were doing the over under pod me you and rossillo and i'm the only one that that chose the over for philadelphia i i own it but i did understand the thesis i understood all of the moves that philadelphia made in their off season it was a gamble it was an all-in all the chips to the center of the table
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gamble where that Philadelphia team on paper, as we entered the season, looked like it had the potential to compete. I'm not saying beat, but compete with Boston. Boston is the standard. How can we put guys around Joel Embiid? The whole thing revolves around Joel Embiid's health. That is obviously the biggest part of the gamble. But the other side of the gamble is that Paul George will show up.
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The thing that the Sixers had done successfully in the two seasons leading up to this season is in those chunks of time that Embiid was missing, they could tread water. And they were able to tread water through the players that they had. Paul George was supposed to be the tread water character. But that dude showed up. I will never.
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This will always be Paul George for me, and I hope when he gets into the Hall of Fame that they put this picture up as part of the montage for his legacy. Him putting his mouth on his wife's titty on spring break, you know, right before the All-Star.
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The players that aren't involved with the All-Star game are off on their version of having a break, and that man has the gall to put on his Instagram his mouth on his wife's titty. That will forever That will never be the Paul George moment for me. I'll always think of him in that context. That's it. That's it.
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Cause I'm not, now I'm officially kind of like the draft is dropped. Yeah. I'm having a hard time.
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We can do houses.
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No, I'm not flummoxed. I know who I want to put in here. And, you know, I'm prepared to take all of the slings and arrows. It's Scotty Barnes. I don't like the Scotty Barnes extension. I don't like it one bit. This is the thing, right? And the reason why I'm putting him in at this moment, I know what I'm going to take from Toronto. The bullets I'm about to take from the Raptors.
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But somebody proved to me that he is not Zach Levine. Somebody proved to me that he is not Trey Young. The problem with paying a guy that's not ready to be the leader of the team. And look, you can say he's been hurt. Well, yes, he's been hurt. He's only in the fourth year of his NBA career. I don't want guys that are missing chunks of time the way that Scottie Barnes is missing time.
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Well, it's his worst year, shooting percentage-wise, of his entire career.
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Tell me when he will make his first all-NBA team.
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I love it. I put them where I put them because we've seen this, this song and dance before.
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It's his worst shooting percentage.
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There you go.
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I'll confess, I might have a little softer view on Kawhi because at the end of the day, I think that everything the Clippers have done with him has been part of the wildly successful arrival of the Intuit Center. I think what Ballmer did was try and create a credible product. Yes. Not an incredible product, a credible product. And the way that he did that was he used Kawhi as the vehicle.
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It has been a gross overpay from really the... Ever since he arrived from the Raptors, each of the two extensions were gross overpays. But for the purposes of what the Clippers are trying, the identity that they're, you know, they want to be relevant. And the risk of him, you know, not being available was kind of worth it for them.
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I had him on my list. Interesting.
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I want to drop the first F-bomb. I mean, he's a force fucking multiplier. That dude, because of his basketball brain, and you put the two biggest basketball brains on the planet together, yeah, I think they're going to figure it out. But think about where we were in the first third of the season, the criticism levied against the NBA. And it was proper criticism.
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It's time to have the Terry Rozier conversation. Welcome. Two years, $51.5 million left for Terry Rozier. On the face of it, $25 million for a shooting guard is capable of being a prolific scorer, it's okay. The problem is we have a sizzle reel from this season that shows him actively undermining the ability of the Miami Heat to win basketball games.
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I wonder, you know, we can theorize about stuff that doesn't take us into uncomfortable territory. No team in the NBA has more double digit leads that they've coughed up in the fourth quarter than the Miami Heat.
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And I, on the Ringer Gambling Podcast just this past Monday, said one of my favorite betting strategies over the last couple weeks, and will be until the end of the season, is to find situations where Miami has a lead going into the fourth quarter and watching them cough it up. They, down the stretch in the last six minutes of the game, have no apparent game plan. They did last night.
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It's ISO to HERO. But Rozier's contribution to that. And again, who knows? I wonder if they quietly went to him and were like, dude, we're really not trying to make the playoffs. Well, so they're the seventh seed right now, 29 and 32.
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Are we really going to do this goddamn retirement tour thing with LeBron and Steph Curry and Kevin Durant? We have to watch all these shitty games with these shitty teams. And now look where we are. Look where we are.
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I love it because it's a confession about how they feel about Scotty Barnes. So it's wonderful. It feels like it validates. Oh, it's a win for house. Yeah, it feels like an extra win for me.
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Um, this one, I understand the controversy surrounding it. I have to go put a bright light on Jamal Murray because it is an enormous, enormous contract between, for a guy, remember where we are with him in terms of his injury situation and his execution. Our recency bias will tell us this guy is a mad killer when he's healthy, but the dude's only been healthy for about six weeks now.
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And I adore him next to Joker. I want to be very plain about this, very clear. I love the contribution of Jamal Murray to the Denver Nuggets. I'm very excited to see how this playoff shakes out. But his injury history, what he does to that franchise, what he does to that franchise when he can't play. It ruins an all time historical figure in the Joker.
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It takes so much off the table with the Joker. So when you're staring at it says five years, two hundred and forty three million dollars. That's a big gamble. That's all I want to say. That's a big gamble.
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Fair enough.
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He's on the list.
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I think that Minnesota is going to find a way to keep him. I think that there's some off season. Let's do it. Yeah. Dinner. That's great. Yeah. Dinner bet. I mean, he will not be on Minnesota next year. It's not happening.
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Well, look, I mean, you just went through. They moved Cat. Nobody had that on their radar for money-saving purposes. I think they understand the value. We'll see it in the playoffs. I think Nas Reed is going to make such a compelling case over the course of these playoffs. If Minnesota goes anywhere... Honest to God, my favorite matchup of the entire first round is Oklahoma City, Minnesota.
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I pray to God that we get that as our opening round in that thing. And the toll it's going to take on Oklahoma City sets up that matchup against potentially Golden State in the second. God, it's so juicy. But to go back to the point around Nas Reed and Rudy Gobert, if the Gobert extension was for the purposes of, you know, Does it make him more palatable as a trade asset?
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But they have to do something to keep Nas Reed, and I think Nas Reed will stay with Minnesota. What do you think, Wes?
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You say the same thing about Steph? As soon as they acquired Jimmy Curry, he dropped a 56 on us. Like, hey. Yes.
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It's mandatory if we're doing a worst contract draft. We've mentioned his name once, but he has to officially be a selection. It is Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons has to be. The Ben Simmons buyout?
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Yeah, you can't have a draft until. Talk about bad contracts. Russillo sent a hilarious text this week watching him on the Clippers just making an observation around what seemed to be Ben Simmons' instincts for passing the ball. Some of like, it's just hard to really thread the needle in terms of what he was trying to accomplish, where the ball was going.
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It's an honorary pick for Ben Simmons for me at this stage.
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um am i allowed to do a combo deal because these guys uh to me fitness the exact same profile and they are also in this in this gamble phase why would you be able to take two picks in the same pick i don't understand all right then i'll choose zion because you know you can you can imagine who the who the foil would be who the other guy's name is without say but i won't say it he could still be a viable pick
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We need proof that Zion can play basketball for an entire season.
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He really does. Who do you have, House? I'm going back to an old favorite of mine. This guy is near the end of his career, doing a very distinguished job of helping a franchise with a tremendous talent, try and see the best outcome. This is Damian Lillard time. He's playing well lately. Wow. I agree. Three for 161 for Dame Lillard.
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The problem is the amount that's left on this contract at his age and the history in the NBA of guards with his profile being effective. It's just really the end of the year thing. I said up front that I'm glad that he's playing well because I'm glad for Milwaukee to be good. Yeah. I'm pissed at Milwaukee. And our guy Doc.
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Well, I don't think so because he's doing all that he can do. 161 is a gulp.
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I'm trying to put it in the right category. He's going to be good. Milwaukee, I'm pissed at Milwaukee. I honestly think the Portis drug thing was a bummer. But I don't think they should have traded Milton. I know that they needed...
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some cap savings and that Kuzma is a live body, but I will tell you come playoff time, without any reservation or hesitation, a moment will come and Kyle Kuzma will have the effing ball at that moment and it is going to go badly. Chris Middleton, I trust. Kyle Kuzma, I do not. Best of luck to the Bucs.
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I can't believe this guy is still available, to be honest with you. And I'll take, you know, the criticism for some of my earlier picks, but Andrew Wiggins is still on the board. Look at this man's contract. And please tell me the next time that you think that he is going to play 60 games in an NBA season. Please, please tell me the next time you think that that's going to happen.
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He's at 49 games right now. He played 49 games last season. He is living off of a contract that was a reward for helping the Golden State Warriors win a championship. The second best guy in the league. Totally reasonable. No problem with that.
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That's a lot. That's a lot of money left for a guy that looks like he's lost some interest. And his interest in basketball has always been kind of an open question. Except for the championship year.
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When I asked for permission to combine players, I wanted to do Zion and Ja together. Because to me, they fit the same kind of, like, when is Ja going to be able, like, if the idea with him over his entire career will be to preserve him for the playoffs, then what does that do for your team?
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There's no proof that he can.
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House, I'll give you one more pick. Thank you. And I want to say this name so we can have a quick conversation about him. I'm going to draw a distinction between him and Scotty Barnes. I'm taking LaMelo Ball here. And the distinction that I want to make is... See, this is when the draft gets great. John Moran and LaMelo Ball. I love it. But here's the distinction.
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I think LaMelo Ball could definitely make an all-NBA team. And it could be like right around the corner. It's just not going to be in Charlotte. And I don't really quibble with Charlotte paying him this contract. I think it is commensurate with his talent. But his talent, he is a loser. He's a serial loser. You mean a loser of games, not an actual human loser. Correct. Correct.
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There is no proof to the contrary. He's never played basketball in this situation, a serious situation where his team has been a winning.
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Good win. I can't believe we won seven games in a row. It's never been said. With his talent, if he can stay healthy, another guy who can, you know, we keep seeing these nagging ankles here and there. But his talent is such that if he was
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with the right situation with the right coach this would be an incredible contract potentially because i think he is supremely talented and i like his swag it just needs to be redirected so in this circumstance with this team tough i like it i don't think it's bad money but you know what i'll take his career over scotty barnes and everybody from toronto can go ahead and send me poop sandwiches i'm fine with it i'll recap the draft before i make the last pick
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I looked long and hard at it.
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They deserve to be going crazy. Like that is the only rational response in the face of, you know, the most extraordinary, irrational trade in the history, maybe of professional sports. I mean, I guess that the Sean Watson thing might rival it.
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All of sports. All of sports.
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Like, Jimmy in Miami didn't cover himself in glory in terms of up and down.
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Happy Jimmy.
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He was bitch Jimmy for, you know, 45 to 60 days. Like you really want to say if you're comparing the emotional kind of component of it, I'm not sure that I'm willing to concede. I think KD, if he had been into it, would have arrived with the very best attitude. But I don't know if he was into it. I do. And here's the other thing about KD.
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What do you mean the start of something positive? It's been an amazing three plus years here.
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm glad to hear you say that. You were pretty down on that Bridges trade. I think we were both down on the Carl Anthony Towns trade. Yeah. Can we talk about the picks?
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That's what I was going to say. I'm not crazy about that 2031 pick, but all these other picks, I don't know. If they're a 55-win team for the next five years, who cares?
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I was not really a fan of him as a player, but I think watching him on the Knicks has revealed how much I was not watching the T-Wolves, honestly, because he's even more skilled than I had realized. And he's a good fit with this roster. And I thought for some reason that him and Thibodeau had a really bad experience together, but that does not seem to be the case.
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They seem to be getting along great now. I don't understand how they repaired that, but he fits this team very well. Obviously, he doesn't play great defense as your key interior defender, but that's not the plan, I don't think, long-term. I don't know. It's weird. They had a cupcake schedule in December, for sure. But they've also played a ton of games on the road. So it's weird.
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They really could be a 55-win team, and they might be the second or third best team in the NBA right now. Maybe fourth. Fourth seems right.
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So, like, who's on that list in your mind? Who's somebody who could come over?
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Knicks fans have been talking about getting Beef Stew in the mix in some way for months. I think since the Towns deal happened, knowing that they needed more interior defense. And that's a... He feels real Knicks-y to me. I think he would fit in really well with this crew of guys.
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Bill, I'm sensing a little bit of a sadness in your voice about this, about the Knicks being a legitimate franchise.
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Everyone says that, but if we go to the NBA finals, we will be insufferable. Everyone will hate the Knicks in a second. Ask Philadelphia fans how they feel about Knicks fans right now. They fucking hate us because of what happened last spring. So I think it's cool that we're a good story. And what can you say?
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Like Leon Rose, I never would have guessed in a million years that he would have been this good at roster construction. Almost every move he has made, barring a couple of signings, like the Kemba signing, have been brilliant. And he's been able to wriggle his way out of bad moves very well. And he's drafted well. It's wild. It's been very exciting.
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Yeah, obviously the Sixers look a lot better now, too. And the matchup would be so significantly different because you've got Paul George and Mikael Bridges and Karl-Anthony Towns who were not a part of that matchup last year. Plus a bunch of other guys affiliated to their roster, too. So it would be different but the same.
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I mean, one of my favorite sports memories of 2024 is the Devo double bang, you know, which, you know, didn't end that series, but it felt like it ended that series. And I felt like a... I felt a tide shifting in the conference when that happened. I was like, oh, wow, we are where the Sixers were three years ago.
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Like, we are a team that people are like, they're not the best team in the conference, but you don't want to fuck with them.
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We are missing Dante. Can Dante be bought out and re-signed? Is that on the table? Can you re-sign if you've been traded?
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Yeah. I feel like I'm about to be fired or something. You know, it's like things are going well for me with my sports teams. We will get to the Jets. But yeah, the Soto thing is unreal. I don't even know how to talk about it. This is something that never would have happened through the first 40 years of my life. Obviously, Steve Cohen has changed the Mets pretty dramatically.
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I also don't think that they're a playoff team right now if you look at their roster. So, I'm not going to get over my skis about the Mets. They still have a lot of work to do and their pitching staff, when you compare it to the rest of the National League East, is not very good, candidly. So, the Soto thing is unreal. Soto, Lindor, Vientos is very, very exciting. But, We'll see. We will see.
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What's going to happen with Pete Alonso? Will they trade for a pitcher? There's a lot to happen there. But they've totally changed their reputation in baseball, which is fucking awesome.
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Couldn't wait. You could not wait to get off of that.
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I would not have predicted four and 13. I would have said maybe seven and 10 and they missed the playoffs or eight and nine and they missed the playoffs. Because last year they were seven and 10 with Zach Wilson. Yep. They were seven and 10 with Zach Wilson two seasons in a row. And they're about to go four and 13 probably with Aaron Rodgers and basically great health.
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They have not had a lot of mass injuries. They lost C.J. Mosley for a while. They've had some health issues on the offensive line. But, like, Rodgers hasn't missed a game. Brees Hall's only missed one or two games, I think. Garrett Wilson hasn't missed a game. I mean, their best players are playing. And they stink. They're terribly coached.
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Aaron Rodgers is obviously an awful influence on the organization. I still don't really understand what the fuck he's talking about in public like 85% of the time. I have no idea why he's grinding axes the way that he is considering how poorly he's played. His stats are really good and they're very deceptive if you've been watching the games, which I unfortunately have been.
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Um, he can't move as well in the pocket and he's so, so careful in his desire to not make a mistake that he often doesn't take chances where you need to, to have an exciting offense. So it's just not fun to watch what should at least be like an entertaining offensive team. They've sucked on offense this year.
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I think he's just really online and really like responding to the critics, but we don't know who the critics are because we don't see his mentions, the mentions of his mind. I mean, he just seems like a really weird guy right now.
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Can I suggest a theory to you? Yeah, let's hear it. So let's look at like the last 10 years of professional athletes. We've had more and more great stars play longer and longer into their careers, right? We've got Tom Brady. We've got LeBron James. You know, even like Federer played for a very long time. Like a lot of great athletes...
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who extended their careers for health reasons or what have you. But a lot of those people have gotten like more and more odd in their public persona. And one way to think about it is like being famous for a long time makes you kind of crazy. Right. It makes you paranoid. It makes you makes you entitled.
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But I'm about the same age as Aaron Rodgers and like I'm getting weirder and I'm getting like riddled with anxiety. And there are certain things that I'm like my body is breaking down and I'm getting bent out of shape about it. And I've got a family and I've got different kinds of responsibilities.
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So it's like when you're 27 and you're locked in on your sport and you're the thing that you're doing, it's because you don't have anything else going on in your life. When you get older and like your parents start dying and you start thinking about your legacy, whatever the hell that is, you get weird. And Aaron Rodgers just seems like he's been going through a midlife crisis for like four years.
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And we keep thinking he's the guy from 2011 in Green Bay. And he's not. He's just a middle-aged guy who just happens to be one of the best throwers of the football of all time. And so it's been fucking annoying that the one time we got a genuinely great quarterback, it happened to coincide with him going through a personal emotional crisis and we're watching it transpire in real time.
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Yeah. Look at CR.
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Yeah, I was thinking about that too. He probably should retire. He can clearly still play. I don't know if he can play at a high level.
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He can't.
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No, he can't.
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Yeah, I mean, it's hard to watch kind of what the contemporary superstar quarterback is now relative to what his play is like and what the Jets quarterback play has been like for the last 50 years. That's the thing is, like, if he finishes with 26 and 10 and throws for 3,800 yards, that's a top five quarterback season in Jets history.
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Like, that's how pathetic the team is, even though he has been terrible. So it's not ideal. I feel like, I don't know, like... If the Cardinals trade Kyler Murray, is there a one-year Aaron Rodgers thing that could happen there? You know what I mean?
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It feels like there are some spots where you could comfortably see him in a warm weather situation having one last hurrah, but I just don't want it to be in New York.
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It was a really busy December. There was a ton of new movies in December.
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No, I have not given five stars to any movie this year. Are you like Dave Meltzer? Like a five-star match? I'm honestly developing that. I'm trying my best. I think I've given out eight five-star films in the last nine years or ten years. So, yeah, no, there were not any this year. Now, my favorite movie is The Brutalist, which we can talk about.
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It is a divisive movie, and if people don't like it, I'm not going to pick a fight with you about it. I understand why people don't like aspects of that movie. But, no, I think the thing that you're feeling is the same thing that... it seems to be will be an issue for the Academy because we've never really gone this far.
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I, at least since I've been doing this where the best picture races is open as it is. I think people genuinely do not know what's going to win best picture. And it speaks to that lack of consensus that you're talking about.
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Yeah. I mean, all of a sudden. That was the Roma and Green Book year as well?
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Or was it the previous year? Maybe that was the previous year. Maybe that was the previous year that was like Get Out and Lady Bird and yeah.
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I think that's probably the front runner as much as there can be for Best Picture. It's a movie that I really like. I really like all of Sean Baker's movies. It isn't my favorite of his movies. I think it's got a great central performance and that helps it a lot. Yeah. But it's a fairy tale about class.
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It's not going to be the most crowd-pleasing movie despite having this insane screwball energy that people seem to be responding to.
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I watched it a second time with my wife over the break, and I had the same feeling, which is the feeling that I had. I think it's very propulsive and entertaining. It's a great watch. I think the twist is a little silly and ham-handed.
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I had someone suggest to me, I was just talking about this with Amanda, someone suggested to me that if they had put the twist in the middle of the movie and only had the Ralph Fiennes character know the twist... and no one else know, it might have changed the dynamic of the movie and maybe not made the twist feel as rushed, which was cool.
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I don't usually like being like, your movie would have been better if you'd just done this because I don't fucking know what I'm talking about. But that was a cool idea that I think maybe would have made me feel a little bit better about the movie because the craft is really good. It's edited beautifully. The great performances, like refines is... exceptional in the movie.
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You know, you got Lithgow and Tucci and my guy Tedesco vaping. Like, it's just some great stuff in that movie. But it felt a little bit like kind of silly and a little bit like ta-da with the reveal at the end that made me not like it.
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Yeah.
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Our little baby's all grown up. Yeah. You know, he did it. You know, the world's number one Bill Simmons fan is now the world's number one young movie star. Yeah, I fully agree. I agree with everything that you said in your conversation with Chris. I feel the same way about the movie. I think the movie is... You know, James Mangold doesn't make, like, bad, boring movies.
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You know, his movies are always, like, rock-solid, good watches... This is by far, far from his best movie, in my opinion. I think it is pretty conventional. There's not a lot of story. I think the movie makes a good choice by not trying to explain who and what Bob Dylan is. That he's more like this spirit that moved through this period of history. And Chalamet embodies that spirit really well.
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And obviously his like singing and guitar playing is, it's amazing. I mean, it's just amazing.
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I really think he could win. I really think people's heads have been turned. I think a lot of people had the kind of lowered expectations that you were talking about. I know I sure did. I was terrified to watch this movie as a psychotic Bob Dylan fan. I think for the most part got the idea of Bob right.
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I wish the movie tried to explore a little bit more of the why instead of just like showing you stuff happening. But, you know, the performance...
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Yeah, I do. And I mean, I think the movie is not really pitched at her. I think there's like a little bit of a...
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kind of a bait and switch here because chalamet is the star so of course like in theory it's a movie that should appeal to young people but it's a movie for boomers and and for older people you know it's people like i i was texting with juliet yesterday and she said that her parents like were profoundly affected by the movie and because they grew up you know admiring bob and listening to folk music and that that being a meaningful part of their lives and i mean how could it not be you know like if my mom would have loved this movie
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She would have just felt so close to it. And she would have loved the idea of a young movie star getting Bob Dylan the way that Chalamet clearly does. If you listen to his press interviews, he knows everything about Dylan. He's read every book. He knows every bootleg recording. He is encyclopedic about it, which is pretty cool.
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But you can't expect a 19-year-old to have that same level of information. Hopefully what it will do is it will put people on a path to finding out about some of this stuff and the way the culture shifted over that time that you're describing. Yeah.
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No, and I said this before the movie even came out, that for me personally, that's just not the most interesting period of time in Dylan's life. It's also a period of time that is extremely chronicled. Like there are documentaries, multiple documentaries about this period of his life. There is lots of contemporaneous footage of him talking during that period.
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But once you get into like 66 through 1980, there's not nearly as much. I mean, he's doing way less press. He disappears for like years at a time. He shifts his musical style so dramatically. So that stuff, all that is like, that's discoverable territory where you could interpret what was happening. What we see in 62 through 65 is, that's legendary American music history.
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Um, so I, I felt the same way. I just didn't feel like I was seeing anything new, but maybe that's not the movie's job. Maybe the movie's job is just to represent that period in time. And they did the best they could.
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I mean, you're describing like the dramatic tension, you know, like Walk the Line has dramatic tension. There's no dramatic tension in the Bob Dylan movie. It's like he came along, he blew people's minds. He was the first meaningful folk artist who was performing all original songs.
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People are literally in the audience staring with their mouth open at a 23-year-old kid explaining God and the universe and the way we relate to each other. And they were breathless taken away, falling in love with him. Everyone all fell in love with him at the same time. And then he betrayed them by leaving their movement. That's the whole movie. So there is no dramatic tension in that story.
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It doesn't mean it's not fun to watch. It is fun to watch.
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I think it's on the outside, but maybe not as far on the outside as I would have thought three months ago. Yeah. Hugh Grant is nominated for Golden Globe, which is happening on Sunday. In like 12 years of knowing you.
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It's a little bit more respectable than it was five years ago. They're owned by different people. They have different voters. But you're right. It's not that big of a deal. So in 12 years, I don't know if you and I have ever had a Hugh Grant conversation. Where do you stand on Hugh Grant?
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He's playing a lot of dirtbags and villains.
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Dirtbag Hugh Grant is great.
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Love the first two thirds. Love the like thriller man traps two women in his house stuff. It gets a little funky at the end for me when it kind of twists on the story. I thought some of it was interesting and some of it I didn't love as much. But I love the writing and the like It's very like post Tarantino, like guy explains all his theories to people stuff that I really I always think is fun.
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And Hugh Grant is so game and, you know, him making the connections between like the Hollies and Radiohead and Lana Del Rey and the board game stuff. I thought all that was so fun. So, yeah, I dug it. And I really like those two young actresses, Sophie Thatcher, who's on Yellow Jackets.
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Chloe East, who is the girlfriend in the Fablemans, both of whom I think like could be big stars someday.
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It was fun. Yeah, I liked the guys who made it too. I just wasn't crazy about the ending.
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Did you find, you watch it at home?
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Did you find it challenging to lock into it? Cause like I saw it at a film festival and like people were walking out, you know, cause it is really unusual the way that it's done. It's done in this first person perspectival way where like you are the character essentially.
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I never really seen anything quite like it.
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It was disorienting at first for sure. I really, really like it. It's one of my favorite movies of the year. I think the guy who made it, who played point guard at Georgetown, by the way, Rommel Ross, who's best player, who's a great guy, super smart guy. But it's just a, there's nothing like it. There's nothing like that movie. It's really deep, has a lot to say.
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And it's just really, really interesting the way that they made it. So I'm stoked that you like that.
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It's funny that you say that, though, because I had him on the show in December. Yeah. And he was like, I'm not really like a director. He's like, I'm a college professor. And if I want to make another movie, cool. If not, no. Like his previous movie was a documentary that was nominated for an Oscar.
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But he was he kind of I wouldn't say he stumbled into it, but he's not strategic in the way that like all these directors I interviewed are always like, and then my next movie is going to be like a sci fi epic. He's not like that. You know, he's just like, whatever.
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If a book comes along, I think he did the movie because the Brad Pitt's production company called him and they were like, we liked your documentary. Do you have any thoughts on this novel by Colson Whitehead? And that's why he made it.
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The substance, um, is exciting for me as a, like a, a fan of crazy horror, you know, as a fan of body horror and this like explosive kind of stuff that is almost never built around female characters is like a female writer director. The whole movie is about the female perspective, what the expectations are of women in our society, et cetera, et cetera. So yeah,
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Seeing that and then watching her like basically go all the way with it, make a two hour and 20 minute movie that's just like disgusting and explosively like primal, like just like pus and gore and blood dripping from Demi Moore. Like it's really gross. And the fact that that movie is like an Oscar contender is so wild to me. I really liked it as just like an act of here's everything.
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It's so maximalist. Admirable effort. Yeah.
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You're not supposed to enjoy the last 30 minutes. Exactly right. It is durational. It's like, sit through this and fucking watch what we do to women. That's what the end of the movie is. And what women do to themselves because of how they feel about the expectations that they have. Baby Girl, I think, is a little less successful in the substance.
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I'm so interested in your mom not being into it because... It's obviously sort of an update on the erotic thriller. Well, that was her take.
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I would argue that it's a little bit more of a black comedy than that. That it's almost like using the erotic thriller to springboard to make a comedy of manners. Um, and that's meant to be received a little bit more humorously. Like everything Harris Dickinson is doing to Nicole Kidman in the movie is very funny to me. You know, like the glass of milk and ordering the glass of milk.
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I don't want to spoil the movie for anybody else. There's a couple of things in there that I was laughing in the theater and like not a lot of other people were. And I was like, I think they went in expecting nine and a half weeks or expecting disclosure. And so maybe that was a marketing thing.
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I think they wanted to push it as a sexy movie and it is kind of a sexy movie, but it's very, I don't know, it's very humorous. I have interviewed the director of that movie a couple times now and she's super funny and very like, she's an actress and she's very outgoing and charismatic and goofy.
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And so when you meet her, you're like, this is not supposed to be like some Adrian Line movie from 1989. Like that's not her energy at all. But, you know, your mom has got some of the goat taste, so I'm not going to challenge her.
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Nessie kind of popped on and he was like, he loved it.
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But is it about something about the blood sucking, the fangs, the Eastern European thing? What's, what is it that you're turned off?
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Can I give you an opening to suggest Nosferatu for you? Nosferatu is a movie about real estate. The whole movie is about... I did notice there was a Redfin element to it. There is 100% a Redfin element. A count summons a real estate agent to his castle because he wants to buy... you know, a little hacienda, a little pied-a-terre in Germany. And that's the plot engine of the movie.
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Guy wants to come to a German town.
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Absolutely. Selling Sunset with syphilitic metaphors about sex and blood.
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Yeah, I mean, it's literally a 100-year-old thing. I mean, the original Nosferatu was in 1922. And it's a story that never expires. People just love vampires. They love vampire stories. I like vampire stories. I've probably seen hundreds of vampire movies at this point in my life. This one, you know, Robert Eggers is the director. He's made four movies now.
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All of his movies have the same kind of thing where there's like attention to period detail. The lighting and direction is so specific and focused and unique. And his level of craftsmanship is basically unmatched in genre filmmaking.
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Yeah. But if you don't like those stories, you don't like those stories, you know?
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Well, the Wolfman is coming to theaters in January starring Christopher Abbott and Julia Garner.
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You sent a very attacking text message to me over the weekend.
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What's the runtime of The Godfather, Bill?
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It's two hours and 55 minutes.
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Well, I'm only comparing it because other people have been comparing it because it's meant to be an American epic, the same way that The Godfather is, with big gestures and breathtaking performances and beautiful craft and a movie full of ideas that is also extremely entertaining. You know, it's not as good as The Godfather. I'm not suggesting that. Have you seen it twice?
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I've seen it twice and I'm seeing it a third time on the big screen next week. I really like this movie. I think it's not perfect. No movie is perfect. But I think that there's like the conversation around like how long it is and whether or not it's only for film nerds is like, I don't know, man. You like Apocalypse Now? Yeah. You like The Godfather?
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You like great, grand, epic, visionary movies. You like There Will Be Blood? It's in the same tradition.
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So what's the problem? What's the issue? You'll watch nine hours of a horrendous Netflix show.
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That's right. I've watched, how many hours of Aaron Rodgers have I watched in 2024? For fuck's sake.
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OK, here's the case I'll make. I think the second half of the movie has been much more controversial than the first. The movie is bifurcated. There's an intermission, a literal intermission, 15 minutes in the middle. The first half is just, here's the sell. It's a classic story of the American rise. An immigrant comes to the country and they try to make a better life for themselves.
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In this case, it's someone coming after surviving the Holocaust from Hungary. And he's an architect and an artist, but he has to start at the bottom. And he has to build himself up and he has to have opportunities come up his way. So he's blogging? So he blogs, he blogs for a hoop site and he does rumors and, uh, he manifests trades. Yeah.
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Um, and the movie is just like the first 90 minutes of the movie is just up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up. And it's incredibly exciting.
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And the second half is, you know, it's a rollercoaster. Rollercoasters are fucking fun.
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The brutalist is, is it pretentious art film? Yes. Is it also an incredibly fun movie with like big bowl performances? Are you a guy Pierce guy?
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He's incredible in this movie. Very funny, ridiculous over the top. He's a very familiar character. I think if you can carve out the time. I just got to clear out.
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Yeah, just one room without Pistons Hornets. You don't have to watch that game tonight. Just turn yourself over to the Brutalist. And maybe you'll learn something about yourself.
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You know, it wasn't like it was a nonstop action. Was this pre or post Mike Brown firing?
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Oh, last night. Okay. So you were like, I want to see what, who took over for Mike Brown? I don't even know.
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Right.
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Was she in the front row?
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Congrats, Amanda. Welcome back. She's back. And she was like, I think it's wicked. And the wicked thing is happening. And if that happens, I might need to go to Hawaii for a few months. I might need to bail for a while. Four minutes. That's how far you made it.
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It's not for me. I mean, that was what she said too. She was like, it's not for me. I mean, I'm in the business.
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My daughter liked it, didn't love it.
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It's a great question. I've thought about it too. I was just watching an interview between Conan O'Brien and Billy Crystal. And Billy Crystal was talking about his experience hosting the Academy Awards. And Conan was like, you had it easy, man. There were like 38 movies and everyone had seen all of them. And now there's like 300 releases just in America every year.
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Yeah, I'm curious to see if TV shows are better next year. I've never watched as little TV as I watched in 2024. Yeah, this is the fewest. I mean, since I was five years old, probably. But yeah, I don't know. I the movie stuff is hard. It's obviously making me crazy because I feel like I have to watch everything and that's not healthy.
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It's like it doesn't make sense to try to watch 300 new movies a year every year. I'm going to fucking burn out.
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It's a great time. I mean, just look at Dune Part 2. You know, it's like, it's Chalamet, Florence Pugh, Zendaya, Austin Butler. Like, we're good.
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I like that movie because it felt like 1996. It was, it's just a really good 1996 draw like weepy. Um, and yeah, I mean, look, you have to work harder than you used to have to work to know. It used to just be like by entertainment weekly. I'll tell you everything you need to see anything beyond that. You're a real film fan. You're a real cinephile. Now, I don't know.
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I mean, there's movies I haven't seen that came out this year. They came out last year. And like in theory, I should know. I should have seen everything. I just impossible to make the time and to recommend all the right stuff. So it's challenging. But I think 2025 is going to be a good culture year. I feel pretty, pretty, pretty strong.
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We'll see.
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Yeah.
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Late night house.
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Which religion?
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Until recently. Until recently.
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It makes no sense whatsoever. And I also really sort of wonder about Fox to San Antonio because... It's like, where do you get this season? Where are you next season? It's a decade play.
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And that makes more sense, honestly, because they're still right in the thick of things. Playoff wise. I mean, you know, for sure.
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Where are we? I don't mean to derail it. Where are we this week in Jimmy Butler?
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That is interesting. Because Washington is out there auditioning players. Valanchunas, Brogdon, Kyle Kuzma can't get on the floor.
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No, it's high because he has an incredible contract. He was like, you know what? Just a few years, 20 million bucks. Sounds great, man. It's an incredible contract that he signed. So he's very valuable if you can get a version out of him, get him to be committed to playing.
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I had under for them. And it's because, you know, they had... pieces that they added in the offseason that were supposed to create depth. Melton got hurt, but none of the pieces really moved the needle. Buddy Heald is a shocker. Buddy Heald's only averaging five points. He couldn't stick in Philly. Philly needs a guy that can score from the perimeter.
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I feel like the Golden State situation, you know, it requires what we got with the Christmas game, which was Steph Curry scoring eight points in 26 seconds. And then they lose on a layup. And it wasn't just like a hard for Reeves. It was Ole. It was Ole defense.
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So they are where they are.
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Just in terms of like bringing that energy, they, there was, you know, all their core guys went to the Olympics except for Jalen Brown, who wasn't invited, but you know, like going from the finals to the Olympics to an NBA regular season and 58 wins in this era is still like excellent. So if they win 58 games and they certainly can, um,
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I still win my bet at 58 and a half to 59 and a half, whatever the total was. But it's just hard. It's a slog. And I don't begrudge them, you know, sort of going through peaks and valleys over the course of a regular season. Knock on wood, they'll be plenty healthy come April.
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And really the only thing that was interesting to me in terms of a regular season outcome is like, is Tatum going to put himself into that MVP conversation? Is this the right moment for that even?
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Yeah, and they may yet figure it out. They won yesterday because Luka went out. When he went out, he's going to be out for an extended stretch, which is concerning.
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But the West, the thing that makes it super hard for the teams we're talking about, your Lakers, your Denver, your Golden State Warriors, your Minnesota Timberwolves, is the early good performance by Memphis, the early good performance by the Clippers, and the somewhat... Exactly. Anticipated. We all liked Houston. I'm surprised. Did anybody take the Houston over as a lock?
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It is weird because Christmas Eve is like such an underrated night. I went out to dinner and the place we went to was effing popping. It was butts to nuts packed from when you walked in, the bar is packed. Like people want to be out and an NBA game is super fun to go with your family, you know, go with your family to an NBA game and then dinner, whatever. Yeah.
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boston oklahoma city yeah i haven't wavered on that either to move off of it yeah any did philly do anything yesterday that that intrigued you big picture or do you just you're just not going to take it seriously no i i do take it seriously and it does intrigue me they're like fighting hard to get an identity and that level of of like competitiveness that they showed against the celtics it was
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good yeah seven and three over their last 10 there's still the net differential still isn't great um but they're you know still yeah minus four net differential they're like they're pushing in the right direction if they could just get you know two of those three guys healthy for a stretch of time all all every time all three of them play it's it's an absolute bonus but i they're headed towards i could see them rip something off in january be right around 500 and
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And then it's like February turns into March. There are a couple of games above and then they're like a real formidable playoff though.
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Somebody desperate enough.
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Yeah, I mean, you know.
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You're Denver and Golden States, right? Those kinds of situations where it's like one last gasp. Let's see if we can do it. Or maybe the Lakers. If the Lakers keep scuffling around 500, they still have that one trade piece.
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I'm I'm inclined to look at that Green Bay side mainly because of just how effective they've looked on both sides of the ball. Their defense has just been so impressive. They're able to put pressure on opposing quarterbacks. They're still generating turnovers. There was skepticism earlier in the year. I'll put my hand up.
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um about you know their their defense was producing what felt like an outsized number of turnovers and that was the way that they were um able to to look so good defensively um but they they've continued to do so and now it looks like their offense is healthy and now jacobs is really they're really leaning into that run game.
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And it looks like last year where Green Bay went on this run at the end of the season when Aaron Jones was finally healthy. And he led the NFL over the last five weeks and into the playoffs. Aaron Jones for Green Bay in rushing. And I kind of feel like they're gearing up in the same direction with Jacobs. It's not intended to be disrespectful in any way, shape, or form towards Minnesota.
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I mean, the line, I think, is super fair. And I think, you know... the money line is minus one to wait for both teams. Like that's, uh, in the book. And I think that's, that's totally appropriate. Um, green Bay out gained Minnesota the first time they played by, by, I watched that game though.
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Um, these teams tend to split against each other just historically. It's an important division game. Um, so my, my lean would be green Bay, but if the Vikings go win, like who, who's going to be shocked.
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I don't know. I don't know. What's Green Bay doing if it really is a playoff game, right?
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Yeah, Atlanta. If Atlanta loses this week... Carolina-Atlanta, Sunday night. Yeah, but that would be good, because then you'd have Bryce Young against Michael Penix.
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That's not good at all. Carolina has four wins. It would be hilarious, is what it would be.
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Well, they will be at home. They'll get home calls, you expect, for sure. I don't, you know, this one is just a stay away because it's dead even. I don't get any value on either side.
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Well, I think they're in very similar positions because this is a gigantic step up in class for Minnesota. Minnesota's defense hasn't seen anything like this Green Bay offense. Look at these offenses that Minnesota has seen since they lost to the Rams in week six or seven, whatever it was. They played the Colts with Anthony Richardson. They played the Jaguars. They played the Titans.
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They played the Bears. They played Kyler and the Cardinals, which was a huge comeback game, right? The Cardinals were up. That should have been a Cardinals win. Not a great Vikings game. They got Kirk Cousins and the Falcons. in his triumphant return to Minnesota, which ended his career in Atlanta and maybe his career in NFL football.
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And the Bears and the Seahawks, the best game, the best win was going into Seattle and coming down to the wire.
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Well, they're kind of like, they're good enough to be fighting for a playoff spot, but yes, yes. If we're going to do that, we have to do it for both, both teams. And the interesting thing to me, you made the case for Minnesota's offense, uh, Looking good. You want them with the ball at the end of the game. I would say the exact same thing about Green Bay.
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To me, it's not that dissimilar from the handicapping of that Thursday night Detroit-Green Bay game where it came down to which team had the ball at the end. It's a great game.
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True. But like the public hasn't jumped in yet with a big perspective. So you're thinking it's a stay away. I mean, if you want to put something small in it so that you can say we did it and it's fun and then Minnesota wins, it's like, excellent. Now we have Minnesota and Detroit in week 18 for the one seed. That would be awesome.
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True.
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Does that make you nervous or what? I honestly think that we're going to see one or two more of these over the course of the next two days. I bet, you know, the rivals.
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No, I think somebody will come back in on any other direction. And, you know, it's going to flip again.
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Yeah, that is. You would want to do it right away. Right away.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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The only thing that would concern me about the Miami situation is... Well, there's a lot of things that concern me. I don't know. You're going to go with only? Um, the, the single most prominent is if DTR, anything happens to him at quarterback.
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Well, I thought they already said that DTR is going to start. My concern was that DTR would start. Something would happen to him and Jameis would come in and DTR is playing not 100 percent healthy, though. Well, I mean, I just need to make, I want certainty that Jameis will not come in. Because if Jameis comes in, then I feel like that's a dead loser bet.
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We don't have to put them in a teaser. I mean, there's other good legs. Dallas is a pretty good teaser leg.
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Yeah.
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needs a game this is weirdly a playoff game in some ways right right no i i think both teams will treat it like a playoff game and this is exactly why my handicap is in favor of the cincinnati bangles that's why i prefer the bangles i like the team with the players that have actually like played in the playoffs yeah the team that doesn't have the rookie quarterback and you know uh
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Bo Nix, these nuts, they have been throwing the football all over the place, and we're seeing the version of him that kind of makes sense, right? He's throwing picks, multiple picks every week, Bo Nix, these nuts. And the Denver Broncos, the only thing would be with their defense... They're getting Riley Moss back. So they had two of their last three games. They gave up 32 points to Jameis.
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They gave up 34 points to Justin Herbert. Their secondary was getting eaten up. If Riley Moss comes back and he's able to go up against Jamar Chase, that's an incredible matchup. But I love all the other weapons that Cincinnati possesses. Moss is back, by the way.
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Yeah.
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I'll stop now. I mean, Cincinnati hasn't been good at home, so I prefer to not lay any points at all. Just let them win the game. Cincinnati Moneyline was my preferred play.
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Nope, nope. I mean, you know, a strip sack fumble last week against the Browns that helped me lose a nice teaser bet on the Cincinnati team total.
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Yeah.
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I don't mind the points. I really don't mind grabbing the points. And there was a minute when it was three and a half and that got stashed up. So it's down to three. And I really do kind of understand the case. It's a rookie quarterback on the road in a playoff game, right?
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But if you want to argue the other side, they've been good on the road. Denver's been good on the road this year. They beat Tampa in Tampa. They beat the Jets in New York. 10 days rest. Yeah. Extra rest for Sean Payton.
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It's extra rest for them and short rest for Cincy because Cincy's on Saturday game. Sean Payton versus Zach Taylor. Yep. Well, Zach Taylor did coach in the Super Bowl.
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Well, let me ask you this. Let's go ahead and do that, and let's do it in a meaningful increment, because we both are believers, and that's some fantastic... I mean, you know, the other sort of side to this, remember how good favorites have been. Moneyline favorites have been absolutely crushing this season. Favorites 75% since week five in terms of outright wins.
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And favorites have been covering at nearly like 56 or 57% since week five. Like both of those are, you look back 25, 30 years. Yeah. those rates are all the way up there. So we're just doing the thing that's staring us in the face that helped us make money last week, helped us make money on Christmas. We're going to make some more money on Saturday. But I want to just add another wrinkle.
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Let's go ahead and do whatever you want on that Rams-Chargers. We have to put the Colts in. Colts have to be a leg in every Moneyline parlay that we do. Really, any kind of combination, the Colts have to be in every one of them. Just on the Moneyline, Colts beating the Giants outright has to be an element of it. Well, and that goes back.
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That was it. That was it. That was the end of it. So are you saying... We anchor strategy a little bit with Chargers Rams.
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To me, the anchor is the Colts because I'll put the Colts with anybody. Here's what makes me nervous about that.
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Think about that. Like him, not Michael Penix last week, but Anthony Richardson this week.
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Layer on top of that all of the McVay stuff. 15-2 against the spread in his last 17 December games. 25-10-1 all time in December, McVay. The Rams against the Cardinals. The Rams kicked the Cardinals' ass. 12-4-1 against the spread over the last eight years against Arizona. 10-2-1 when they're a favorite against the spread, the LA Rams. I'm laying the points with them.
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They're in the Moneyline Parlay. They are part of our anchor strategy. We love the Rams. Their defense also kicking ass. The last two weeks held both the Jets and the 49ers under 10 points. Now you say, oh, look at those offenses too, the most disappointing teams in the NFL, but still holding NFL teams on the road to under 10 points. That's impressive.
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Oh, okay. There we go. Um, and I had uncertainty.
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The total is at 39 and a half in that game, as it is. I don't... I'm worried. What are you worried about? Just messing with that game at all. At all? Yeah.
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Yes. Yes. That's exactly what I think. I would have loved Dallas. I loved Dallas at 8.5. I loved them at 9.5. The 10 was an incredible number. Now down to 6.5, I kind of don't want to mess with it. Because Philly got enough... with Pickett of like, he's like, Pickett can play now, right? He got three quarters of real live NFL football, high stakes, high leverage, and they'll run an offense.
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What are you doing right now? Did you just make a Kenny Pickett case? No, it's just like Philly being ready for the game case. That's what I mean. That's all I'm saying. He's not a guy that's like playing with the first team starters for the first time in practice this week. That's all. That's all the observation.
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that i'm making i i have had enormous success riding with the cowboys and i'm so upset that they lost to cincinnati uh on that money night stupid punt thing their defense since parsons has come back has been legit good and their secondary is legit good legit good so i couldn't interest you in dallas plus 10 and a half with the over of 30 and a half at minus 115
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That yes.
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I totally agree with you.
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We love it.
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50K?
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Just a little divisional rivalry. It'll be fun. Philly hates Dallas. It'll be great. I mean, Dallas has been playing so good over the last six weeks. The Parsons effect. Yep.
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Jerry might have to buy that podcast for $250 million so they could afford to pay him and keep him under the salary cap.
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It's a collective bargaining agreement violation, I'm sure, but still.
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Okay, okay, fine. I don't mind rooting for a close game between Minnesota and Green Bay. That's fun.
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We got him with my guy Jaden Daniels and Michael Penix this coming Sunday night. Atlanta in Washington, 8.30 on NBC. Primetime Jaden against the Penix. Notice we steered clear of that game.
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I did. If we hit this LA Parlay when I'm out there two weeks for the Ringer pregame show, we'll celebrate with an LA Parlay. With the LA Parlay of food? Yeah, we'll go to Momofuku for lunch and then where are we going to go for dinner? I have like a smash burger. Major Delmo I met. Major Delmo.
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All right.
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I got a lot of good stuff planned for you.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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We're really doing this again. Oh, my God. You like long legs, Zoe? I like long legs.
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Well, the nice thing is my family tradition, we get together with my parents in the house we grew up with.
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And with my brothers and my sisters. I've stayed in the attic of that house many times. You have. And so we just do that the first part of the day. So we were done by kickoff, one o'clock. And when we got home, my wife and my kid wanted to play with his stuff. My wife went right back to bed. And so I was left alone to watch whatever I wanted to watch. I had full control of the dial with Netflix.
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The dad.
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Great job, Netflix.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's like a jerky.
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Well, this is the sort of predicament for the rest of the season. I mean, this is what happens when you're in a transition moment and the most resonant stars. And the Olympics really validates the idea of putting those guys on the main stage because the Olympics were effing incredible. Right. Those last two games, the semifinals and the finals, were incredible, and it was because of those guys.
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Right.
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So if you want to let them have their – retirement journey, which is really what we're on, I think, with LeBron. And, you know, this is probably... He looks better since the eight-day sabbatical.
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Yeah.
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Well, only because we don't have an American superstar that's jumping up and grabbing the ring. The guy that jumped up and grabbed the ring is effing Wemby. He served notice. 12 noon, Madison Square Garden, Christmas Day. Welcome to, you know, the world. Like, everybody's been talking about Wemby last season, this season.
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He keeps having these, you know, inspiring milestone performances right out of the gate. And yet, you know, the mother effer was flopping on Monday. I know.
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got kicked out and got kicked out and drumming got pulled back in the game. I mean, if we're going to, you know, we need a guy who's going to come out and kick ass and not fall over when the wind blows. Well, he is French. That's part of the problem. It's literally part of the problem.
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Well, you know, Shaq understood this, which is why he went to LA and it was Shaq and Kobe. And that was an unbelievable era. Yeah.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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Yao. Yeah. Well, Yao was incredible. And beloved, you know, by... Global.
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Globally, he became great. Yeah.
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I went under. Yeah, I went under. I look at that roster even today and still say under. There aren't guys on that roster that make me say, oh yeah, this is a 500 team that's going to be threatening for the... They're going to be in the play-in mix and they're going to be potentially fighting for an eight seed. I look at that roster and I don't get there.
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They play defense.
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I mean, first of all, you see all this gear, what I have on, what's behind me. You're going to see none of that when I'm in Philadelphia this weekend. This is the last time you're going to see any of this stuff because I am not catching any hands when I'm up there. I'm not looking for it, right? I'm too old for that smoke.
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I'm going to try my best not to get punched. I mean, if beers get poured on me, that's fine. I'll go with that. But I will tell you on the subject of the procedure, my screening procedure, this health path that we're on, you can tell how unimaginable It was that I would have something football related in my life this weekend. I mean, I scheduled the colonoscopy months ago, right?
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Because I look at the calendar like, oh, sure. It's conference championship weekend. That's fine. I mean, I'll be.
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Yeah, it's symbolic. Really? Yeah, it really is. All of it's coming out. I can tell you that much. In fact, if I, we might have to take a break 10 minutes in here. All right.
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Well, the two aspects of it for sure that all four of these teams have an advantage is, is taking sacks. These quarterbacks not taking sacks and these teams, you know, being on the correct side of the turnover margin, both Washington and Philadelphia arrive for their matchup plus six, the exact same number through these playoffs. Uh,
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And nobody would have forecasted this for Washington, I don't think. I mean, that's what's truly remarkable. And for sure, I think the handicap that we... Now, by the time on Sunday, on the Ringer pregame show, in advance of the divisional games...
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yes indeed i thought that nine and a half points i finally was i had the balls to say it the the detroit favored by nine and a half was goddamn disrespectful you didn't have the boss to say it when we did million dollar picks oh good i couldn't remember no i did not no you were like you were teased you were being cute you're being cute you're being cute about it i think you deep down knew your team had a real chance um
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Yes. Yes. Unquestionably? I would say unquestionably because of how far we've come, how unexpected it was. I mean, I feel now like it's a bad analogy coming on here every single week and saying to you, That if we wrote this script out, if you wrote real life as it's occurring and said, this is a script about a football team, every production house would turn it down. Say, this is trash.
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Well, not just new QB, possibly the greatest rookie in the history of the football game.
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I mean, we were there for Marino.
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It does feel like something is going on. I mean, I can't view it in an unbiased kind of way. And for sure, the sum of all of these guys together believing is greater than the parts because you can't sit down and do X's and O's. You can't do advanced metrics. You can't. use any of those things to truly capture the spirit of this team and the way these guys believe.
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And they just believe in that belief in each other. I mean, it's an incredible combination of veterans and, and rookies and the veterans, some guys that have been there before Bobby Wagner's been there before. So for a defense that by all metrics, it's the worst unit on the football field come Sunday, but somehow or another, we keep getting W's. They just keep getting W's. W's Bill Simmons.
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outstanding yes yeah but the the rookie mike sandra still had two interceptions uh and i feel very proud of myself and one of my threads with with uh actually a guy um with with the team i said you know this is part of the the revelation this guy sandra still the kid from michigan he's been unbelievable but He is, for sure, benefiting from the overall gravitas of this defense.
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Dan Quinn can coach up a defense. He's got the spine. You have Jeremy Chin playing safety. You've got Frankie Louvu and Bobby Wagner playing. where they are, and they just really do believe. And look, they held Tampa to 20 points. And we watched that Tampa offense go out and just post points on everybody.
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Now, it did feel like if Detroit had stuck with the run, that they might have been able to run for 250 yards in the second half, and they might have won that football game, but they chose not to. And that kid... who had at least some role in it, is now going to be the head coach of the Chicago Bears. So good luck to them.
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Well, because we hate everybody in the NFC East. You hate Dallas the most, though. Yes, hate Dallas the most, for sure. It's mutual hatred amongst all of the franchises in the NFC East, and each team has their own which one they hate the most. I think the Giants hate the Eagles the most. I think the Eagles hate Dallas the most. I don't know, but... For sure, Washington hates Dallas the most.
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Philadelphia, let's be real about it, wasn't really on the radar for a long time.
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Well, it doesn't make, I mean, I'm not that surprised that, that Washington and Philadelphia have only faced each other in the playoffs once. Cause that means both teams have to make it in and, and, you know, in their previous iteration.
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I mean, you know, your all-time greats are John Riggins and, you know, there are several generations of Washington fans that didn't have football in their lives. So Alex Ovechkin ranks pretty high up in terms of Washington icons. Yeah, but Daniels is in the conversation. Let there be no doubt. Some old heads like me, like Wes Onseld and Elvin Hayes, but, you know, that's old head shit.
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yeah and and uh we we watched it it was a bad stretch and and it was you know bad enough that we wondered i wondered in the moment whether that was uh a tear whether that was a ligament tear turned out it clearly was not a ligament tear because that would have been announced on on monday but the the discussion
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all week has been we presume that Jalen Hurts is going to play we expect Jalen Hurts to to play I mean we watched the way that that knee bent and they definitely shot him up with something because his behavior in the interview after that game when he was with uh say quad that was a version of Jalen Hurts that is not your your sort of standard issue post game you know right he's
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He had a kind of aura, let's just put it at that. But look, if Washington only has to stop Saquon Barkley, preposterous kind of task that's in front of them. If Jalen Hurts isn't going to throw the football down the field, it takes him too long.
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We've been watching this now, and I know you have the stats to back it up, where for throws that are 10 yards or longer down the football field, it's just taking too long for him to get the ball out of his hand. And they're not throwing the ball anyway.
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And the crucial thing for what you just shared in terms of Philly's approach is if Jalen Hurts can't run, go ahead and set Saquon Barkley's over under at 199 and a half yards. If Washington can hold them under 200, I like Washington's chances.
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Yeah. Well, it's Saquon. He's been unbelievable. I mean, he rips off 70-yard runs. But to me, the larger point is if Jalen, if that dimension of Jalen Hurts is not on the table. And we'll know within the first, you know, series. We'll see how he moves. If he is not a threat to run the football down the field, then that changes things immensely. And, you know, Washington.
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Right, like that long touchdown run he had in the first quarter last week. Take that away. If that threat isn't there, then it changes things. It tilts things for the Washington defense.
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Washington, from the minute that they get the ball in the first quarter, is going to be playing no huddle up-tempo offense. Right.
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going for every single one of those. Every series that Washington possesses the ball will be a four-down series in the sense that they're going to try, if they're close at all and they're not on the wrong side of their own 30-yard line, that they'll go for it. And at some point, the cumulative effect of that on a defense, this is why the Jalen Carter piece is significant.
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And Washington lost his best offensive lineman. Right.
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We lost Sam Cosme. Now, you know, Washington in its own shrewd way is being coy about, you know, how they're going to play this. And there is a thought that Andrew Wiley might slide from the left side over to the right side. And he has played some right guard for Kansas City. But it was several years ago. And, you know, they have.
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talent on this offensive line, but really it's a Kingsbury scheme thing that's been most impressive. So it's a huge loss to lose Cosme. But the Jalen Carter piece, yeah, man, he got tired. He made the play of the game. I would say on a really bad play call, uh, McVay said that there was a miscommunication, um, and that, that, that led to, you know, right.
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One, you know, another time we saw it the last time Washington played Philadelphia, when Washington came back from down to scores, 36 points. Yeah, the most points anybody scored on this Philadelphia defense all season.
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The funny thing is that I feel like, you know, from the sort of national NFL media perspective, there's a lot of believers in Washington, but the market does not believe in Washington because this line opened at four and a half and it got slammed all the way up to its present six and a half spot.
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You know I do.
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He just doesn't take... Washington just doesn't get that setback thrown at him. Now, I do want to... If I can have a moment. Pour some water on some stuff? Pour some settle-down juice on the whole situation, right? Let's hear it. We're talking about an absolutely unprecedented outcome. First of all, this is Washington's fourth road game coming up here.
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So the starting point is fourth road game. Fourth road game in a row. In a row. It's own unique challenge. But here's the stuff. It's the rookie quarterbacks in conference championship games. We talked about this last week. Yeah. 0-5 straight up. Only 1-4 against the spread. Also, teams like Washington that were underdogs in the first two rounds and covered both of those rounds. 1-5 straight up.
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Two and four against the spread when it comes time for the conference championship. And this one also underdogs in divisional rematches. So Washington is the underdog. It's a divisional rematch. Oh, and four straight up one and three against the spread. I mean, that's your settle down juice, right? It just there's no precedent for a team in Washington's position to actually win this game.
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The hope in their eyes? It would still be fine. I'm beyond any reasonable hope or expectation for this team, the franchise, what they've done. Those moments of joy, I mean, I hate that Washington did what it did to Detroit of all franchises. You know, I bear no ill will towards Detroit, but they did shut that stadium up.
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I mean, it was silent in there, and nothing would be more beautiful than doing that to the Philly crowd. But look, Philly might come out and just, you know, put us on our backs and run the road sled right over us. It is possible. They have the best offensive line. It's an incredible offensive line that Philly possesses.
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something in between those two, because there could just want to make sure it wasn't like we did it. Oh my God. And then there's a lot of enthusiasm. You know, there are, those guys are, are, they believe in each other. So they're coming out of both the Tampa game and that Detroit game. Like there, there, there's a swagger, but there's also for sure. Some, some exuberance that there'd be no doubt.
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Oh, I mean, first of all, right now they're small stains. I sent you the picture. I would, I mean, what I would send Dan Snyder wouldn't be those. They're not nearly foul enough.
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Um, it's going to really are a, nobody believes in this team. Do you agree with that? At least nobody believes in the bills. I feel like a lot of people are taking them this week. Okay. I mean, that line hasn't moved.
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Fair enough. I will say this. Let's see what happens when the public wakes up Sunday morning or Saturday night going into Sunday. Because right now, this is just a professional market, right? Buffalo secondary looking a little banged up. Not only looked, they are banged up. Both Christian Benford. I don't know if he practiced.
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I mean, you know, he had a concussion on the last play of the game against the Raiders. And Taylor Rapp was questionable with a hip injury. Yeah, I mean, there's serious issues in their secondary.
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One of the things that the Texans showed us last week is that, you know, there was a bunch of supportive numbers for the idea that Kansas City's run defense was a dominant run defense. And then Joe Mixon got the ball and the Texans with their the most the weakest unit of that Texans team is their offensive line. And somehow they established the run and Mixon was really effective defensively.
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And the Texans out yardage the Chiefs, you know, by by by quite a bit.
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I'm talking only about the ability to establish the run. But I'm saying they established the run. And Buffalo's offensive line is good. And if James gets cooking, and you know Josh Allen, one of my favorite props of this week, especially with the quiet rush yards game that Josh Allen had. Now, he did get to 10 attempts, over eight and a half attempts last week. That was a giant cash for everybody.
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I hope everybody listened to the Ringer pregame show. But he was way under his yardage number. I do not expect him to be under his yardage number this week. This is a by any means necessary. Pull it all out. Pull out every stop. Pull it right out of your butthole. You know, nice and clean, Josh Allen. I think he's going to rush. I think 50 is a great number.
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I mean, that has to be the approach, right? Like, why would we put ourselves through the mental gymnastics to get to a spot where we say, like, definitively, affirmatively, yes, the Bills are going to win this game and the points and all, you know, we'll grab the points and the Bills is the case to make. You have to work so hard. It's a simple case. It's the case you just made.
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Josh Allen does the thing, does the superlative, superior thing, and that would be awesome. And I'll be fine with losing my money if he does it. I'm not kidding, but I'm not betting against the Chiefs. I'm just not going to do it. Not at this number. Not at this number that they've won and covered every single time in the playoffs where it's been under three in this neighborhood. Yeah, sign me up.
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And respectfully, it wasn't we. You didn't have me on Million Dollar Picks for that Ravens-Chiefs game. But you also had the Ravens. Oh, no, I did not. You had the Chiefs? Did you zag it? It was four and a half or five points. It was preposterous. Yeah, that line was crazy talk.
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Hmm. this is very funny in view of what we watch out of the referees in that Houston game. Wow.
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We did it. It's still pretty good.
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You know who agrees with you?
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What's going on here? He's also not healthy, by the way. That's another guy. He might come out and look like, you know, with a spring in his step, but we haven't seen it. And those drops last week were big time. I had a couple of prop bets for you before we get to the picks. Yeah, I have some for you.
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I don't love it only because of what you sort of observed was possible earlier, which is... It's like the tip pass at the line of scrimmage. That defensive line for Philadelphia. He gets hit as he's throwing it. All right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And we really didn't sweat that at all. I don't like this at this stage of the playoffs. Those two guys are running the football. Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen are running the football.
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He's a batting ram. He's a bad boy. Him in the end zone makes a lot of sense to me.
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Sure. 50 yards. That's a yes. That's a yes. That's a yes.
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As long as he doesn't get kicked out of the game because he's a psychopath. As long as he doesn't get kicked out, then I like the idea of one.
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He's in the 50 to 75 yard rush without really. And at least 200. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Dallas Goddard, 25 plus yards. That's one of my favorite props of the entire. I'm on Goddard every which way this game.
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Does it have to be a Washington receiver for the fifth leg of this thing?
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Well, the numbers are all over the place. It would be McLaurin. I would feel much, much, much, much, much more comfortable with the idea of McLaurin, especially because it could come by way of what we watched against Detroit, which is like a really smart play, like a bubble kind of play, a wheel route, you know, something that is unconventional. Who's catching the ball for you?
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McLaurin is going to be catching, but really it's Austin Eckler and it's Zach Ertz. That's who's catching the ball for Washington. Those are your ball control guys. That's how you matriculate the ball down the field.
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That's how you possess the ball and have eight to 12 play drives and play and drives that take, you know, seven to nine minutes, which is absolutely the pathway for Washington to potentially win this game. So Eckler and Eckler.
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Yeah, I'm fine with that. I mean, I don't think he's going to get a ton of touches in terms of the running game, but he is such a crucial outlet for Jaden. He factors into every time Jaden's under pressure, you know, Eckler is the guy that gets the first look. And no, N'Kobe Dean is such a big deal for Philly.
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Like, that would be the dude that I would worry about taking away the Eckler option, but I think I don't worry about that in this game. So I love the idea of Eckler. He's going to touch the ball a lot. in my estimation.
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Dallas Goddard, I'm not sure exactly where the number is at the moment, but I had him over 38 and a half yards. There's an incredible case to be made. He has at least 47 receiving yards in the last three games. He's got a full-time role in the offense. So would you go 40 plus yards for him and not? 25? I'm fine. I'm fine with 40 plus. I mean, I'm sure that ramps up the odds.
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I think that he's going to be a big time priority for Hertz, especially if he's hurt, which is, you know, a terrible thing. But he is the safety valve For jail in Washington against tight ends of season 26 in DVOA. And, you know, he's the guy that that occupies kind of a short area. So he'll get the touches. I like him over his receptions, which I think is three and a half.
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And I like him over his receiving yards as well.
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I love Mahomes' longest pass completion ever.
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over 34 and a half yards we talked a little bit about how the bills have those injuries in the secondary since week 14 and this is not tied to injuries buffalo is 29th in drop back epa so teams are are able to pass the ball we watched this with our own two eyes with lamar jackson and that baltimore offense the bills have allowed the fourth most passing yards since week 14.
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third most per attempt on throws of 20 yards or, or more. And Lamar had, he went three of five on 20 yard or more pass attempts. Both Rashad Bateman and Isaiah likely had catches over 35 yards last week. And what I especially am keying in on here is is Mahomes with the compliment of receivers that we haven't really seen them. This is an element of the Chiefs offense we haven't really seen.
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And we know, we intuit, that the Chiefs show up to a game like this with a wrinkle that we haven't really seen. I think he's dying to get the ball down the field. 34 and a half. It was minus 108 on FanDuel when I typed this in. Wow, I really like that one, House.
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No. Jake Elliott to miss a point after. Yes, that mother effer. I mean, that was the difference between a six point, you know, non-spread and a seven point cover. You got to do Josh Allen over rushing yards at 47 and a half. You got to, I think you have to play that.
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I think Kansas City and Buffalo have the potential. They could, yeah, for sure. Because, I mean, you know, Buffalo, I think will be able to run the ball.
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So that Kansas City-Buffalo number moved. It was 47 and a half earlier this week. So people are catching on to this over.
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Okay. Six is a key number as we just watched on Sunday. We did just watch it on Sunday.
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I'm paying the juice. Fine, fine, fine.
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They are the Washington commanders because they, they took that name. from the colonoscopy jews toilet and they've propped it up it this name belongs to this guy right here number five over my uh left shoulder and it's and he is the common dot of the commanders this is the washington commanders i'm here for it hail to the c words
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He's available. I will be there. I am definitely available. I will be at this football game by hook or by crook. I haven't yet figured out how I'm going to get through the turnstile. I will not be wearing any identifying Washington garb. I can tell you that much, but I am available. Maybe some Washington underwear. I promise I won't eat all of the food in the suite. I promise. I promise.
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Thanks for being on.
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See, I don't know that I subscribe to the idea that they're operating from fear because they did stick this cup into the portion of the NFL. NFL season that is like really, you know, we're deciding playoff outcomes now and they are on nights of the week when there isn't necessarily NFL.
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Now, I don't like the fact that inside the NBA is on Tuesday and, you know, the Amazon games are fine, but none of that Thursday night football is must see TV for me. Hold your spot. But here's the real problem. And they're never going to do this. The stupid season shouldn't start until Christmas.
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And the NBA Cup in February would be effing magnificent because football is diminishing starting on Christmas Day, basically. We're getting less and less games. The playoffs start. And during the week, you have full run to go do whatever you want. So taking the whole thing and starting in Christmas time, New Year's, and let's take over the season as football goes away.
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Yeah. I mean, it's LeBron. It's supposed to be LeBron, except for where LeBron at 40. Come on. It's not LeBron at 40. And it's not really Curry either. That's right. But those are the guys on television. Look at the schedule. Look at the, the, the ABC schedule. Um, I think, you know, the hard thing is nobody sits down and watches basketball games.
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You don't sit down like, oh, the game's about, let me go get my chair, right? It's not football. And, you know, using linear TV ratings as a measuring stick for overall success is clearly outmoded, outdated, makes no sense whatsoever. The fact...
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The fact that the league signed an 11-year, $76 billion deal means that those folks who were paying that money have ideas about how to capture eyeballs in the interest of those consumers to push their stuff that makes sense to them.
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And they don't think that people are going to come sit down in their chairs and watch a goddamn basketball game in February from the beginning of the game to the end of the game. It's all the ways that we watch it. It's what you and Derek Thompson talked about. People consume the hell out of basketball, but they don't consume it by sitting in a chair and watching it.
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So it's a little bit of a false description, a false assessment to say, well, yeah, the ratings are down.
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100%.
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And I don't have a good solution for it. Um, it's easy for us to talk about less games. There's the 41 home games for, um, places where people actually go to the games, not here in Washington, but in bed places, cities where the team is relevant. That's real money. That's revenue in that's walking into the door, buying food, buying merch, you know, uh,
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populating the surrounding restaurants and bars and stuff. It's an ecosystem that matters. And how do you walk away from that? Where's the replacement for that?
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Well, the reason that's great is because the buildup to it is occurring in the month of diminishing football. We're not having 16 games on Sunday.
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Yeah. And in terms of fans, like how much would it cost to just here's 5,000 tickets? If your team makes it, we're going to give them, you know, we have a five, 5,000 free tickets. Please take the ticket and go. I mean, you're not going to pay for people to go, but where you're at least have access to the arena.
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I mean, here's the thing. The trade deadline sucks now. They ruined it. The collective agreement. They did ruin it. They aproned it.
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By the way...
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What do you think of that?
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It's incredible. I think that's the best way to give. No, I mean, as a guy who was an early embracer of that Dallas Mavericks, they really changed the entire trajectory of their franchise at the trade deadline last year. Speaking of trades not mattering anymore, Daniel Cafford and P.J.
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Washington, and then they did an incredible job in the offseason building up around those guys and getting rid of some pieces that didn't fit. 12-2 in the last 14, Bill.
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He had another one.
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It's exciting. I love that. I mean, who knows what the outcome would be this season's playoffs, but it would be much more interesting.
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So here's my overreaction to the entire week. And it really does, you know, it's expressed most perfectly by that game. I will confess just for myself, I got lulled into a sample size that wasn't really reflective with that Seattle defense and throughout the card in week 15. I chose the defense over the offense.
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And in each instance, the team with the superior offense beat the crap out of the team. Like Philly, Pittsburgh. Yeah.
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Yes. Tampa went into the Chargers.
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Right.
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They were good numbers. They were like, you know, look at all the ways that they've improved and they had health. And, you know, they were very it was a compelling case. It just didn't hold any water.
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So this game to me was the most confounding and the hardest for me to try and choose a path. And I'm halfway inclined to bet on Houston and grab the Houston money line because on the possibility that all of the Mahomes stuff is smoke and mirrors. Because Kansas City is smart enough to try and give itself an advantage on everything.
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So part of the advantage would be having Houston's defense prepare for Mahomes and then come out with a Wentz game plan. I wouldn't put it past Kansas City in any way, shape, or form. The challenge is... the chief defense stinks. Their secondary is bad and they haven't been able to do anything since week eight. I mean, it's, you know, look at the numbers. They're a bottom 10 past defense.
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So it's a, this is a stay away from you. It is. I mean, even though I think in the second half, especially Joe mixing these nuts, uh, Joe mixing these nuts. Like, that's the pathway. Houston can't score in the second half.
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So if they get up, you know, 17 to something, and then they do what they do, which is score a touchdown or a field goal in the second half, and they try and run mixing these nuts, you know, 15 times, that's their path. And you're up against Carson Wentz. But I just don't trust that we're going to see a healthy Mahomes. And I don't like that Kansas City defense one bit.
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They're planning, right? They're planning for Saturday and Wednesday. The Chiefs are doing that right now. How can it make sense to have Mahomes in any kind of diminished capacity in the Saturday game?
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The problem for them is that they go to Wednesday against the Chiefs 10-5. That's hard.
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Yeah, because every trend that's out there says that against the spread, this is a great opportunity to get in on Pittsburgh. I don't want to have anything to do with Pittsburgh with no T.J. Watt. Let's see what... Right, T.J. Watt. That's... Their record without TJ Watt is abysmal. And every number goes out the window if he doesn't play. Now, it seems like he's going to play.
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The practice reports kind of have him in the mix. But if he's diminished at all, then I don't love it against this Ravens offense. It's going to be cold. This feels like a Derrick Henry game. The front seven for Pittsburgh didn't really get home against the Eagles' offensive line. Well, that's the other thing.
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They got their asses kicked. I think the Ravens' offense is as good as the Eagles' offense.
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Well, he's got the busted finger on the non-throwing hand.
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Your instinct is lined up with my instinct because I've seen enough of these Philly-Washington games, even in seasons where there's been dramatic difference, much more pronounced difference in the quality of the team. Remember that Monday night game that... Yeah, Washington ended the Eagles winning streak that season. It was just, you know, 2021, I think, whatever, a handful of seasons ago.
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But, you know, the right way to play is to take the team that has the better players. I just want to be as reductive as possible. And that's something to play for.
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100%.
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I mean, again, Washington, I'm so happy. I love this team. And they did get right. They looked awesome against Tennessee. They kicked their ass. They looked awesome in the first half against the Saints. But they still like that defense. It's the thing why when you called me last summer, you were like, can Washington make a run here? And I was like, the only problem is the defense.
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Now they've made a run. It's really incredible. But Philly on the money line is the right way to play this. And you're basically in the playoffs.
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I agree. I'm thrilled.
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I'm trying to think. I might want to workshop. Can I? Is Penix these?
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They weren't in that game. I was like, what's wrong? I was like, the Seahawks hurt my feelings. That game was over. I was like, oh, I just lost this. I just, I watched the first seven minutes. You knew.
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Yeah, you knew.
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Well, it would be hard enough if Gito wasn't hurt. You cannot under any circumstances countenance, even a 5% chance that Sam Howell will be playing quarterback for Seattle. Right.
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This is another test of the thesis. We just did this with Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Take the team with the better offense. Minnesota, Seattle. I'll take the team with the better offense. I know who it is. Minnesota secondary gettable. We've been watching some teams, you know, quietly pass the ball on them, especially in second halves. Seattle can't do it.
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We haven't seen Seattle's offense really do anything for feels like six weeks now. You know what happened?
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So what's weird is, to me, why are you going in that direction? I'd rather lay points with the Niners because I think that they're the best. I'd like to do it like Niners minus two and a half. Oh, interesting. Go in that direction where they underdog. Because right now, they're the underdog in that game. The money line is minus 106.
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It's like, you know, I'm not going to disparage my great friend, the host of the... Sunday, uh, pregame show ringer Sunday pregame. I'm not going to say that's a JJ, uh, underdog money line play. Um, even though JJ does, you know, sometimes get close to the line in terms of his dog. Um, but minus one Oh six isn't even a dog. So let's go. If he's going to get on San Francisco, let's get on him.
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Let's lay a little points. Let's let's take it in the direction that we think it's going to go.
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Oh, okay.
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Because Usyk is like a minus 150 favorite.
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I will tell you. I'll confess right away. You have the Bengals in a tease already? No, I have them in money line positions.
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We haven't done this all year. Oh, I mean, I feel like we haven't done it in five years. This is like, it's an old school, old, like get the anchor and then you build around the anchor. It's an old school anchor strategy. The old money line parlay. Welcome back to my life.
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They did a great rope-a-dope. By having Washington prepare for a boudoir photo hater, the guy whose real attribute as an NFL quarterback are the pictures of himself. Right. Getting him out and putting Rattler in, it messed up the Washington defense. And you still should have won by 10. You had first down in the nine-yard line. You could have kneeled three times.
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Also, the game was 60 minutes and four seconds. So if we're going to mess with the clock, we're going to give teams extra time to get touchdowns, then you're in trouble.
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We took an unwatchable slate of games on Sunday because it really is one of the worst slates of the season. And look at all the fun ways we have this split up. This is great. So you don't want to put the Chiefs in with the Bills and Packers? I don't. I mean, I'll take the L for thinking that the Browns were going to not turn the ball over six times against the Chiefs at home.
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I'll take the L for that. But the Chiefs weren't very impressive. Their offense really didn't look great. And that was with the homes, you know, most of the game healthy. And you don't, and we're going to stay away from the Bengals money line.
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Talk me into it. Make the case right now.
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The heart wants what the heart wants. And what the heart wants is the Bengals to be in the playoffs. I want the Bay, the Bengals to win out. I want Denver to lose out. I want, uh, both the Colts and who's the other team that has to lose a game. I want the Miami as the seven seed. I want the Cincinnati Bengals as a seven seed.
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I want us to, to, to wake up with them on, on a wild card, you know, weekend up against, you know, the, the, the, the two seed in the form of who's going to be the, the, the two seed. Is it going to be, uh, it's either Buffalo or the chiefs. Right. And it's that. Yeah. It's, but it could be, yeah, it's Buffalo, the Buffalo or the chiefs.
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Imagine how good that would be. I honestly think it's going to be the Chiefs because I think that Mahomes, you know, they're going to make a decision about it. But in any event.
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If these lose, this is on you and Chris Mannix. It's not on me.
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Old school, Bill Simms, Cousin Sal. You find a team that you like on the money line and then you start building around them. We have two teams that we like on the money line this week, both Buffalo and Green Bay. Huge money lines, minus $1,100 each. Massive.
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And then you start grabbing, you know, teams at lesser odds that you like, again, just on the money line and try and build up around even money or to a plus side and try and build up a little bit of bankroll for those last minute Christmas gifts, BS. Because I still got some shopping to do.
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I mean, he's been looking outstanding.
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Let's not really bet on Cincinnati.
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And it starts the momentum for Cincinnati to get to the playoffs. I mean, we'll know from the Denver outcome whether or not that's reasonable. Denver and the Chargers.
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A little 100K flyer? That I will, yes. So that, what's the number? Let's hear the number.
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That's a hundred K. Well, the only thing that, that, you know, gives us any challenge at all with that is, is Carson Wentz. If Carson Wentz ends up being, but the four and a half, that's, that's Wentz protection. We'll call that Wentz protection. You know, what's great about that house.
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Yeah, the rollies. We had a handful of categories. We wanted to sum up the year. Our good buddy, Brendan Porath from the Shotgun Start podcast came on. And we just ran through all of the big events. I mean, Bryson as the breakthrough performer, we call him the comeback because, you know, he's been on the outs. And look at Bryson, king of the golf world.
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Our Dirk Diggler stud of the year went to, I'm pretty sure it went to Xander Schauffele for winning two majors, right? I sure would hope so. He had that in him. And then we had the Hawk Tua creator of the year, and we gave that to the Louisville Police Department because that was the viral moment in the golf world. Nobody knows who Scotty Scheffler is, including the Louisville Police Department.
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Well, there's there's two things at work. In the first place, the games were rock fights. I mean, the shooting across the board in the semis and the finals was bad. And, you know, Oklahoma City going five for 32 from three, that's not pleasing to the eye. They were all unders. If you were gambling on this and playing on the unders, you're quite happy with outcomes.
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The dude's at the front door of the golf course trying to drive in. They don't know who he is. That was the biggest moment in the entire world of golf. So, yeah, we had a good time with the Rollies. We got to get a trophy for it.
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Well, there are some candidates for that for sure in golf. But, you know, we that that can make the list for next year.
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So so many great times with Shadow and every interaction I've had with Scott O'Neill. What a great dude.
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But Waz really hit the key point, which is how can you get the partisans there? How can you get the fans that will show up with the passion? And this is... the difference between this year's iteration and last year with the Lakers, the Lakers had an easy, easy, easy way to import, you know, a bunch of enthusiasm. And it was very cool because it was the first one.
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How can you get, this is why I was shaking my head enthusiastically around the idea of this being kind of like an NCAA deal. The difference is there's big chunks of fan bases that have traveled to that place to root for their, their team. So it's live. It's live from, from the tip. Um, how can you, how can we get that? That's the part BS that I wanted.
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30?
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Maybe because we were very, very close to having this be the Hawks against the Rockets like Saturday. That was a viable possibility. New York fans would have showed up for that. Um, I, I, I'm not sure. Like, I don't think that that Vegas is a bad choice as a venue because it, it, it delivers, um, the, the promise of other entertainment.
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It, it, it, you know, New York is hard, especially what we're calling it now.
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You mean like adult entertainment? We're old enough now to talk about these things in ways that keep it light. But I don't know. New York in December, like that's a whole thing, right? Like everybody's up in New York right now. That's fair. Yeah, you're right. Because Christmas time is marvelous.
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Well, that's the angle to play up. I mean, part of the thing that you guys are talking about is the league's affirmative choice about how it's going to market this season, which is, you know, a transition season. And you captured it, BS, on your pod earlier this week. They have chosen...
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as a from a marketing standpoint to to give glory to this exiting exiting quickly class of superstars that have defined the league over the past 10 to 15 years at the expense of a player like SGA like you know or Tatum or Tyrese Halliburton or all these dudes in their 20s that they should be trying to elevate
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Exactly. You know, what's SGA's defining moment? And we're NBA heads, but ask anybody in an NBA kind of community. Tell me SGA's, you know, the clutch thing that's happened. Giannis, I love. There's a moment here to really go ahead and lean into where he's at, which is averaging 21.5 points per game in the paint, which hasn't been seen since Shaq in 99-2000. Yeah.
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We talked about Giannis and his potential of replacing Shaq at that point. Let's do that. Let's make that be Giannis. Giannis, we know. Giannis has a ring.
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Do you agree with that, House? I kind of do. It does fit the, you know, the personnel that the Eagles have. We did think that that Kellen Winslow was going to come in as a whiz bang guy and really show, you know, some open up that offense in a way that who was the poor guy that got run out of town last year? Brian Johnson.
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Yeah. Yeah. There was a lot of just bad taste left in the mouth from the Ron Johnson experiment. And Brian Johnson.
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All of them. All the Johnsons. Anyone named Johnson. Bad Johnson in the mouth. That's all I can say.
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Yeah, I mean, I think the Eagles are going to win. I don't mind laying the six and a half, but if you want to tease them from six and a half down to a half and just have them win outright, I'm not going to argue with you.
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Well, part of what is going to facilitate that is the health, the restored health for Kansas City, really on both sides of the ball, but definitely on offense. All of their weapons will be available. One of my very favorite bets on the FanDuel Sportsbook is Patrick Mahomes over one and a half passing touchdowns. It was like minus 144.
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I have no issue whatsoever with laying it, and I'll probably parlay that with Kansas City to win Kansas.
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outright that's fine um i love the the the narrative aspect of this that you're describing bs which is we're going into a weekend where everybody is absolutely appropriately fantasizing about what's going to come between josh allen and and and lamar jackson and patrick mahomes and the first game of the weekend is like y'all i'm still here i'm right here yeah i'm going for a three-peat guys hey i'm ready i'm right here
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Yeah.
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House? The Mixon thing especially is a stretch. Like, he only runs well against teams that are, you know, that permit it and the game script. Like, he had 60 of his 100 yards on the last drive of the game where Houston really closed out that game. Yeah. Otherwise, he had a very average day, and that's really been the story of Joe Mixon this entire season.
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They came out with an offense that looks super formidable when everybody was healthy. I thought, oh, this is the version of Houston that's going to win this division and maybe win 12 games or something and really be a threat. And then they had the injuries and their offensive line never was up to the task. And that's the problem with mixing.
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They're just not, you can't establish the run with, with, with the offensive line that they have. And they ain't establishing the run against the chiefs. I'll tell you that much right now.
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Are you asking me that question? I am. Hell no. And it's not it doesn't have anything to do with Jaden Daniels. He doesn't get to play defense. I mean, the problem is that the offense, they will have a great game plan and they will do their best to shrink the game. They will try and have long drives. They'll try and have they'll try and replicate what they did against Tampa.
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in that game, both teams had exactly seven possessions. That's the best way for Washington to have a chance. They go, they, they, they, every possession is a four down possession. There's no such thing as three downs and punt with Washington. Unless, you know, there are, that's like fourth and nine or something. And very much on the wrong side of the field. That's exactly right.
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But Jaden Daniels can't control the defense. And the defense, God bless them. It's been bend, don't break all season long. They've put that offense in position to go win six consecutive last possession games. The last possession of the game for Washington, they've won. That is an absolute miracle. And Jaden Daniels has been a tremendous, like the hyperbole for his performance.
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You know, I can't overstate how much he's done to transform this franchise, but he doesn't play defense. So it's not up to him.
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I just thought, I think the line's too high. So that that's the case, right? Nine and a half is a big number when you have a quarterback on the other side, like Jaden Daniels and Washington will play this entire game all the way out. Right. There's no, they're not going to do an El Foldo game.
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And so even if the Detroit's up 17 points with six minutes left and Washington gets the ball and goes down, they'll they could score a touchdown and get a two point conversion. And you lose your bet because they take it from 17 down to nine and you've lost the nine and a half point cover. It's a great tease candidate. I mean, the thing with.
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Detroit that I really believe is going to be the big swing here is they're going to establish the run. If David Montgomery is back and is, you know, in full force, they're going to establish the run and just run the football down Washington's throat. And they might get explosive with it. Like they might, because if Jameer gets outside, he gets gone. It just could be a couple quick scores.
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I think there's belief. I mean, certainly here in Washington. And I think, you know, Jane Daniels, this is part of the joy of being a Washington fan. He's captured the national imagination because of his stones. He has the biggest balls of any athlete in Washington that I can think of. I mean, Ovi came in with big balls, but then Sidney Crosby kicked his ass for a while.
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Ovi finally sort of got the Stanley Cup. He's threatening the great one's record. And Bradley Beal.
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I love it. No, I love it. And the case that that's the best case, right, is that Jaden Daniels and Washington controlling the ball and offense. They play defense by playing great, efficient offense. And that's the best opportunity.
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I mean, tears were beyond tears. Like this is what it's done for my libido, for my love life. It's just been unbelievable. It's like a Viagra. It's better than that. I'll tell you what, it's better than that.
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It was worse than that. And Danny Heifetz of The Ringer, a great story on TheRinger.com about the return of Washington as a place where good football can happen. We have this legacy, this unbelievable 20 years of success that a bad owner came in and ruined. He ruined it for three generations almost. There are people in my life who are like, this is our first playoff win.
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You know, there are there are young folks here who never saw any of the old glory days with Joe Gibbs and, you know, the high flying Washington attack. And it's just, you know, this is a football city. It's back. It's back. Yes.
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Well, it coincided with the Patriots getting good and Tom Brady.
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Philly hates Josh Harris. The Sixers, they are so out on him as the Sixers owner. I hear it all the time from my Philly people.
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Yes.
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You can do it. I'm not participating in it. You do it. You do it. You do it.
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Totally agree with that.
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That's definitely my point of view. I mean, the aspect of it that is so curious and what we'll see in this upcoming offseason, I wonder aloud, is it looks like a Baltimore has a defense that is well-constructed to compete against Kansas City.
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I don't think that they could have anticipated what impact Derrick Henry would have on Baltimore, and they don't have a defense that is – they're just not big enough. You're talking about Buffalo's defense. Buffalo's front seven is just too light. They just can't – they can put everybody in the box, and that is a terrible –
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predicament to put yourself into because Lamar really does have a next level of confidence. The way that they ran their offense against Pittsburgh last week, they just ran this option play. It was like a pick and roll. And Pittsburgh had one kind of solution for it. But just the confidence that Lamar demonstrated in his ability to make the right choice and just do it. And he didn't break a sweat.
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He just was like...
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this is the way and i just think the way that that baltimore will get off with derrick henry we're gonna he's gonna they're gonna establish now i don't think he's gonna run have a 90 yard touchdown in the first touch like like he did when these teams played in the regular season but i do think they're gonna establish him and i do think he's gonna get his yards and it's gonna come early and then that baltimore offense opens up and it's just a tough i mean i i'm rooting for a tremendous game so i want to see the very best out of uh out of josh but i just you're
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lover of football. The field is tilted in my humble estimation.
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I mean, respectfully, everybody loves winners. We love having shield on shield comes on. All he does is give out winners, but respectfully, if you're picking one thing a week, like some of these winners were Deshaun Watson unders like, uh, okay. AJ Brown on, you know, catches the week after he complained. He bitched like, oh, is AJ Brown going to get kicked? Yes. Again, we love winners.
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I don't feel like I criticized him enough. He sucked, and Jordan Love sucked, and Sam Darnold sucked. They all sucked. And look at the quarterbacks. CJ Stroud was excellent. Jay Danos was excellent.
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Yeah, well, enough to win the football game. Matthew Stafford was excellent. We're allowed to say that.
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So here's my concern. And I'm going to make a recommendation. You can't parlay this, but I prefer attempts to yards when it comes to Mahomes because kneel downs count as attempts and kneel downs behind the line of scrimmage detract from your rushing total. So if he's in the low 30s,
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and they are running out the football at the end of the game, and he kneels down twice, you're all of a sudden in the real danger zone of getting down to like 24 yards, and you lose your bet. The total for rush attempts is four and a half. Three rushes over the course of the game, and then two kneel downs. You collect on your bet. Yeah, that's one that I like.
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I'm in. I love that one. I think it's... I like the 2-1 odds. Stroud is like crazy. It's like minus 160 for him to throw a pick at some crazy number. So this is really a Stafford bet. And what's the status of Higby? I mean, is he...
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She'll seem lukewarm on the double pick bet. Plus 195.
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Just put them together. I agree with the idea that both of them are going to get them. Both of those teams are committed in a way that the future of the franchise is based on those two dudes going out and getting Russians. They're going to get all the touches. They're going to have all the opportunity. And if we believe in those offensive lines, then they're going to get there. Oh, it's a plus 236.
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And now we need Henry for 21 yards. Barkley for 19.
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Put it on the card. Put it on the card. The shield special. Put it on the card.
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Well, I kind of like it. I don't know how deep they're going to try and go. It would have to be like a pitch and catch kind of thing. But that's the thing, right? Look at the scripts for the other teams. To me, it might be Xavier Worthy. I honestly think Worthy is going to get a ton of punches.
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I'm on that. I'm on that. Yes. Hail baby.
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I'm out. So you have to get your answer from Sheil.
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I'm beyond Eagles-ish. I'm full-on Eagle hump. I mean, it's Go Birds Go. I think that this is a terrible spot for the Rams. I think that the Eagles have advantages on both sides of the line, both defensive line and offensive line. It's like we're playing in the freezing effing cold, and I know the team that has the better lines. Let's go. Let's go get a W.
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The divisional round of the effing playoffs has been 25 years. Like, what are you talking about? It's not surprising at all. I haven't been in this position in forever. Okay.
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It's not like week three. I'm just going to play my McLaurin overs. I'm going to be satisfied. You made a great case. We'll play McLaurin overs. It's fine.
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All right. I think, I mean, you know, decent chance he'll do it.
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10K is a good number. That's how people play them.
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Hell yes. Hell yes.
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Is it true he's living in your attic right now? I mean, he's welcome. And by the way, he's still going to get a great contract. It's not going to be the massive contract, but still, I mean... A couple of years, 25 million bucks. You could do worse. I mean, congratulations to him. What was his best hope for outcome when he took the ball on first down, the first play of this season?
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I mean, I think if you told him, how about another couple of years and 25 million bucks? Are you good with that? I think he might've said yes.
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arnold well sure he a little bit i mean the thing that we couldn't um divine on our own it just revealed itself is that that offensive line for the vikings suffered um injuries on the left side that created um some some mismatches for both detroit and for the rams and that's what yeah there was no he held the ball too long he froze he went back to his old dna but why did that happen against
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Oh shit, we shouldn't have done that. Why is there Wizards violence on this football podcast?
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That's been the script all season. They're among the bottom teams in the NFL in terms of scoring in the first quarter. So they're not coming out and instilling confidence. They're not coming out and kicking ass. Now they did score a touchdown within the first three minutes of the first quarter of
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this most recent game but that's because of you know the bogus fumble that happened and that was the only touchdown of the first half and so like if you want to be frustrated with the Eagles getting going I think I hope I don't know the good people of Philadelphia having seen Hurts get the rust off a little bit with that Green Bay game. They'll be patient and understand.
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The best way for the Eagles to win this football game is to just run the football down the Rams' throat and do it, do it, and do it. And it may take a little while to get the battering in place that is their pathway. But Philly doesn't really strike me as a place that has a lot of patience.
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Philadelphia. Here's the thing. You're from Washington. Why would you like Philadelphia? Over the years, I've softened because of two things. There is incredible golf. Super underrated golf in the Philadelphia area. I got to play Marion last year. Marvelous. But yes, the food in Philadelphia, again, crazy.
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crazy underrated the food in philadelphia this we should go do i did a philadelphia food tour with chris ryan i know five or six years ago on the house of carbs because and the scene just keeps getting better and better so i have my soft spots for philadelphia yeah so it's basically just all selfish food and golf the two things you care about that's how to win over joe house
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Guilty. Guilty as charged.
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I love the cup. You can't see cup parlay. The Cavaliers to win Group C in the East and the Warriors to win Group C in the West. Plus 485, baby.
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I don't know. Are they?
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That's the only team Washington has beat this year. Let's say Bilal Koulibaly drops a 30-piece.
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Koulibaly 30-piece, baby. Koulibaly. I wonder if FanDuel, do they even have the odds for that? Probably not because his career high is like 27. More wagers.
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How dare they?
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Well, I've had a couple drinks, just to be blunt about it, right from the top. So I'll be able to get half of it right.
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Buzz house, okay. Buzz, yeah. Buzz house. I'll say this. This Washington team has now lost four games on the season. All of their losses are to playoff teams from last year. None of their losses came to teams that they were forecasted to beat. They have, against their three toughest competitors, all one-score games. So this whole season is a silver lining season.
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And Washington just isn't quite good enough yet. They don't have good enough players. They have good players. And kudos to the front office and the coaching staff and everybody to put out the first competitive team that we've seen here in Washington. Now, we did make the playoffs a handful of years ago with Ron Rivera with a team that finished under .500. I don't remember that.
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Did make the playoffs in 2015.
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We must have. Oh, I mean, it's lock of the century. I hope we did. Yeah. But, you know, for two and a half, three, three and a half quarters, Washington was in this game. Washington looked fine. But you know why he didn't win? Because your quarterbacks hurt. Yeah, that's the other part of it. I said this on the show.
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One of my favorite bets for this evening was Jane Daniels under 43 and a half rushing yards. He can't run right now because he's hurt. He's protecting his ribs. The team's protecting him. The point isn't to win in week 11. The point is to win enough games to make it to the playoffs. I think they need to win three more games. The schedule sets up nice. We have a nice rest. Let's go through it.
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Yeah.
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Wonderful.
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Yeah. And I think in the NFC, you get to Ted, great chance of getting in there. And this little mini-buy can't be overrated, right? They go from this Thursday night game, which I hate. I hate a divisional game on a Thursday night. But now they... They have the rest. We're going to get Marshawn Latimer. We're going to get, you know, Jayden Daniels.
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Hopefully those eight days are meaningful to his recovery. The offensive line's a little dinged up. Cliff Kingsbury doesn't think so because he thinks that we should try these short yardage rushing plays. That the Eagles, there were eight... Short yardage rushing plays. I'll just do my Kingsbury bit for 10 seconds. Eight short yardage rushing plays for Washington.
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They amassed a total of negative one rushing yards. Is it second half Cliff? Or do we have second half Cliff in our lives?
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All of the above. All of the above, sadly.
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I'm tapping my right arm. I'm tapping. You're bringing in the situational relief. Yes, exactly.
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It's got to be, it's got to involve John Riggins. It's got to involve Joe Theismann. Joe Theismann handed it off to John Riggins. Super Bowl 17, 1983. The diesel, the Hawks. There we go. That's the one.
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He also told the Supreme Court justice to loosen up.
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And that defense, you know, God bless them. It's all, you know, retreads and guys that haven't established themselves with much in the way of pedigree yet. Frankie Louvu is awesome. Bobby Wagner has pedigree. Doran's not bad. Yeah, yeah. And there's like, you know, like five or six guys who've established. But, you know, you still have St. Juice out on the corner. The kid from Michigan.
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Yeah.
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Let's do it first. Let's go ahead and just, you know, sort of crush this because I'm having a hard time with this game. I'm going to confess to you right off the top. it feels like a bill spot to me. It feels like a great spot for the bills at home coming off of the last two seasons, regular season wins against the chiefs. You know, it, it, it matters.
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Now look with where the bills are with only two losses, it's kind of crucial in terms of the seating for the AFC. So that would be the argument that, for the Chiefs going all out here. The Chiefs are not walking in here looking to concede anything to the Bills. But I don't know. It just feels like a Bills spot to me.
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No, under no circumstances am I betting against Patrick Mahomes. All right, I just wanted to make sure.
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No, no, no, no, no chance. Absolutely no chance.
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So, yeah, what scares me like inside the X's and the O's is how hurt Buffalo is at the receiver position. And if they try to establish the run, then you're, then you're in trouble because the chiefs have a dominant, it looks like,
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Let me ask you this before you do it. Why aren't we just auto-teasing the Chiefs, taking the Chiefs from two and a half up to eight and a half?
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I'll confess I've had some misgivings, my own self.
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I kind of like that one. Buy that extra half point.
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Yeah, okay.
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Now that looks like the steel of the draft. Sandristill. Incredible. They went at him with both A.J. Brown and Smith. And he was with the same route. And he was there for both of them. So knock on wood. It's good. It's a good team in progress.
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Yeah, whatever.
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Not only do I share this opinion, I think the Broncos, I'm going to be looking at some alt lines to lay. Oh, we did that last week. To lay for Denver.
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Well, no, I'm going to lay extra to get some juice on it for Denver because I think they might beat the hell out of Atlanta. It's Atlanta, you know, to Denver, the altitude, it's outdoors. So the version of the Atlanta offense that has been successful, the wins that they've collected,
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That's not going to be – and I just think this Denver defense is going to be getting up the field and into Kirk Cousins and making him uncomfortable. And Bo Nix has shown us, you know, he's got a string of over 200-yard games. He's confident. Yeah, a couple touchdowns. I mean, I think it's a great spot for Denver. Plus, Sean Payton's not going to lose three straight games.
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I mean, they lost to Baltimore. Fair enough. They lost to the Chiefs in a game they had won until the last play of the game.
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That's the A-side team right there. That's the Chiefs. That's the A-side team.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I don't think there's any difference between these two teams in terms of power ranking and all the rest of it. I prefer Denver. Me too.
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So here's the thing, and I do want to lean into the Colts, but it would be with caution. There is a bet out there that I think is a tremendous bet, and it's Anthony Richardson over 38 and a half rushing yards. I think he might run for... 100 yards.
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I'm not suggesting anybody wager on that, but I think that the commitment that Shane Steichen is going to make to getting Richardson's confidence back, the thing that he is best at is moving the football with his legs. They are going to give that man the green light, and the thing that we have seen with this Jets defense again and again and again is they are not tough. That is not a tough defense.
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They don't like to take on big... What we saw in terms of the Cardinals running the ball right down the Jets' throat, the 50-yard play right before halftime with the Cardinals against the Jets, that's the identity of this Jets' defense. I love the Anthony Richardson over 38.5 rushing yards. That's one of my favorite bets of the weekend.
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I mean, am I allowed to say fuck yes on this podcast? I mean, you know the answer to that. What are you talking about? I love that one.
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Where do you think Aaron Rodgers is going to go in the Trump administration? He's going to be the ambassador. Where is he going to be the ambassador? He's going to be the ambassador of Ascalusa.
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Turning into my dad.
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Well, he could be the ambassador of... And Oskaloosa. They could send him to Tahiti. Where does he want to go? He's definitely going to get a job in the administration.
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I mean, respectfully, Ron Rivera did just beat cancer last season.
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Don't you think that's fun?
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Two and a small. You know, like we did last week. We put 10 grand on some ridiculous, both the Giants and somebody else. Oh, San Francisco. That lost. Those two teams. All right.
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I tried to do my Ursae impression on Monday because I'm so – on our East Coast Bias podcast. I'm 1,000% positive that Ursae, after Richardson tapped out and said that in that press conference, he came downstairs and –
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And Shane's like, okay, okay. It's your team. It's your team. It wasn't the right football decision. It wasn't the right franchise decision. But, you know, they did what the owner wanted. And now we're back to the football plan. And Shane Steichen has the football plan. So we're doing the right thing here.
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Is this our argue pick? I don't know. The concern is burrow these nuts. We burrowed these nuts. He is on a heater. He's been incredible. And those weapons are unlike any weapons that the Chargers have seen to this point.
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We're way past the Biden jokes, aren't we?
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It's questionable. And they can't run the ball, the Bengals. They can't run the ball. Cannot run the ball. This is the Bengals' season because they can't... They are behind both the Chargers and the Broncos. And if they lose to either one of these teams, that's it. Season's over. They can't climb back.
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Season's not over.
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They need the Chargers and the Broncos both to fall off.
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Who knows?
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The reason I like the Chargers is because, very quietly, Herbert is healthy. He's throwing the ball downfield. They have vertical weapons. And Herbert is, speaking of being in his bag, there's a physicality to him. You forget that he's a tough SOB. He's 6'6". That big boy has played hurt a lot in his career. We've seen him take shots. And he's taking on the personality of Harbaugh a little bit.
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I like this little bit of a swagger that I'm seeing out of them. I like the idea of the Chargers here. I want to just be cautious. That's all.
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There isn't a lot of physical contact between those two. Ever since it became clear that he wasn't going to run for president again. You can't catch those two together in a single camera frame. Yeah, it's tough.
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Their defense sucks. They have four wins against teams that if you add up all their victories, nine victories. There are four wins that come against teams with nine total wins.
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The Chargers also have Greg Roman in their mix, who has all that experience from his time with Baltimore going up against this Bengals team, going up against this Bengals defense. Yeah, I like the Chargers.
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How about this? I was looking for a possible angle to tease the Bengals, but then you look at the Chargers wins. They're all by margin. All of the Chargers wins have been at least seven points.
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They choke the life out of you.
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So, we just need to understand what we're walking into, right? Because underdogs in this series, you know, which other team is the underdog? 10-1-1 against the spread. 9-3 straight up in the last 12 matchups. So, just that. Each of the last five times that the Steelers have been underdogs, they have won outright.
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And over history, these two guys, Tomlin and Harbaugh, the underdog, they faced each other 32 times. The underdog is 23, 6, and 3 against the spread. It's just insane. Pittsburgh, the underdog, when the line is three points or more, 18-2 and three between these two guys. So that's what you're up against when you're walking into this. But Look, here's the thing.
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I'm not going to make the whole handicap about one guy. It's just a big deal for Pittsburgh to not have Alex Highsmith because what he brings to them pass rush wise. I got it out.
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There is not a defense on earth that can slow down this Ravens team. It seems. So you have to believe that there's a significant advantage, which is crazy, for the Steelers in special teams. You know, it's a rarity to talk about Baltimore being behind anybody else in special teams, but they are highly mediocre, highly average because Justin Tucker's fallen off a little bit.
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Their punter shanked a punt against the Raiders, and that is how the Raiders came back in week two. And the Steelers are doing what they do. I mean, they're their third DVOA on special teams. So maybe it's a stay away. I'd like a teaser leg. Oh, come on.
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To me, I would tease the Steelers up to nine and tease the Chiefs up to eight and a half and just have these classic fist fight, almost like Jake Paul and Mike Tyson brought a classic heavyweight brawl and make sure you're getting enough points on both sides of it and then just let these teams do what they do, which is play close games. and rest peacefully with your winnings.
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It's dumb. Okay. I don't feel great about it.
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Okay. It's probably a stay away because we're trying to talk ourselves into the Ravens and every single piece of data over 20 years says don't do it.
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If you really, really, really want to bet the Ravens, make sure that Kyle Hamilton, check on a daily basis, how's Kyle Hamilton doing? Right. You're right. He might not play either. What are the reports about how he's feeling, how he's doing, how does he look? Is he a go? Is he not a go? If you have to bet the Ravens, that's the key.
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I love it. It's the Jameis return game. Jameis back to New Orleans, going right to Commander's Palace and getting to sit down with two dozen oysters. It's the Browns off the bye week. Here's the distinguishing factor. Look at the Browns injury report. I'll tell you quickly, there are no names on it. The Browns, it's the healthiest this Browns team has been all season long.
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And, you know, coming into the season, there was reasonable optimism for the Browns. I think their win total was eight and a half. Um, and so that's a team and the strength was supposed to be in the trenches for this Browns team, their defensive, uh, front seven, their offensive line. Well, their offensive line was basically hurt all the way up until this last, you know, two weeks.
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And they, because of the way the season has gone, they traded as area Smith in the last handful of weeks. Um, But I think it's just the Saints team. They got the new coach bounce. They got rid of Dennis Allen.
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That's the best. It's an amazing run for the Cloggers. The Sunday Night Bill Simmons podcast with Cousin Sal between middle coach. Yeah, we've had a good run at Coach Dick Thames. Yeah. So the Clogger guys win. Yeah.
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They are terrible. Are they going to be able to throw three bombs to Marquez Valdez Scantling? I can't even say the names. Again, I don't think so.
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I still think it's Philly. And I think that they remain a work in progress themselves. You have to remember like this is, and they made a point of it on the, on the broadcast, Alan Kirk, you know, America's favorite Thursday night couple. They, you know, Fangio's defense takes a little while for guys to get, they have two outstanding guys in that secondary Quinian Marshall and, and Dijon.
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Isn't that fun? Let's do it. Plus the line is so crazy. Yeah, the Saints being favored. The Cloggers favored. Look at the price. It's like even money to take the favored team. And you have to lay crazy juice if you want to take the Browns. It's like minus 125 to get the one and a half points.
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Yes, yes, clearly.
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For sure, for sure. But we're positive, expected. We beat the closing line value here on Million Dollar Picks.
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I really think that they're going to put the ball in his hands and let him have the green light to run early, to run often, and just reestablish himself, reestablish the team's confidence in him. He's a tough guy. He's going to show them that he's a tough guy. He's going to get the job done. And Ambassador Rogers can't wait to go off to his exotic destination.
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And those guys are clearly, you know, getting it. Jalen Carter had a dominant game tonight against the Washington offensive line. That's been a revelation. So I think as they put it together defensively, ultimately they won that game with their defense, right? That's what we would say. And I mean, I haven't seen anything out of San Francisco.
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Tough spot for the Saints with the injuries that they have. The Browns are coming off a bye with a clean bill of health. Jameis Winston back to the scene of many crimes, none of which have been reported, but he gets to get back to Commander Palace. We love the Browns. Offensive line, defensive front seven. They're going to put pressure on Derek Carr. No receivers left except for MBS.
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Good luck to the Saints.
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How could we not?
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How could we not? It's hit three times already. Criminal negligence for us to sit here with this opportunity, this marquee game, and not get in on this Cousin Sal special. It's a must-have here on the Million Dollar Picks.
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Yes.
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Required. Mandatory.
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He's got to come up with a great name for it. I mean, he's a master at branding. The Cousin Sal Steelers Special. Fine. Great. The CSSS. There we go.
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Well, you didn't get the C-cup profit booster, but I'll live with the C-cup parlay. I'm going to go to bed now and dream about where Ambassador Rogers is going to land. Good to see you, house.
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San Francisco keeps trotting out the 30th ranked special teams. Get the F out of here. What they did last week.
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There was a lot of bad special teams. I mean, Atlanta's kicker had three missed field goals. But in any event, as you go down the list on the NFC side, it's a lot easier to poke holes than express confidence. I think on both sides of the ball, the Eagles are the second best.
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Okay. It is only week 11. Remember, this is a marathon.
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I would take the Bills.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Probably the Ravens. I don't know. I would take the Ravens. Ravens are close. Would you rather be the Chargers or the Eagles? Oh, definitely the Eagles. No, no, no. Come on. We're not there yet. The Chargers just discovered that they have two receivers. Would you rather be the Steelers or the Eagles? Eagles.
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I agree. Yeah. I think it's 10 wins in the NFC and I, I liked our chances. You know, I think I'm cautiously optimistic.
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a half dozen at least. And it's unbridled exuberance. Like, you know, we have a football team where everybody's, you know, in my conversations, it's around what the future might hold. And everything begins with this quarterback. We must keep this kid alive. healthy. But if we have that foundational piece, then it's been demonstrated, especially in his rookie year.
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In his first 11 games in his rookie year, he's showing that he belongs in the upper echelon. You get that, then you have a window. And if you have a window, you better jump through it in this modern NFL, right?
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Yeah.
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Well, and in this iteration of the NFL, this version, because of the way the salary caps configured, getting the most important player on the team at the cheapest possible price and then trying to build around. It's why I admired what Houston did in the offseason, this most recent offseason, in terms of trying to add. Just got aggressive. You got to go. You got to go.
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The time is now if you have a quarterback like this. So I expect Washington with Adam Peters.
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Why did you have to say that? He had 42 points last night. All he did. You know what that man did? delivered a cover. You know the line was 10 and Washington lost by nine.
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I think we're in the heyday of betting on- It's a pool party, baby.
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No, I'm pleased. You know, they were competitive, good, happy. Let's move on. Let's get to 10 wins. Okay.
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Oh, not only do I love it. I gave out a beautiful group C C cup parlay on the sports book. It's all the socials, baby.
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I mean, you know, they're the fuck-off Mavericks, and that's the way they're going to be for the next five years.
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I heard a wrinkle here in the last 10 days or so that I hadn't heard before.
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Which was the idea.
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Concussion barely covers it. It's brain damage. That Palenka was less than forthcoming, less than truthful, less than 100% upfront about the nature of Anthony Davis's injury. Have you heard anything about this? I have not. That Palenka took advantage of his relationship with his protege, the sneaker boy.
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And an element of that was an injury that he characterized in their conversations was something that Anthony Davis could overcome, was not going to be as impactful.
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Well, I don't disagree.
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It remains, again, the dumbest effing trade.
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I wrote to you.
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In the first 12 hours after the trade, I wrote in our text thread when all of us were trying to make some sense out of it. What if this was the most Machiavellian, big ball, big baller move by Nico, which is to create a market that he couldn't otherwise create by failing Anthony Davis on the physical and having every team in the league now see
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that he's available because it just takes too much time and energy to shot Luca and see what might come out of the woodwork to each of the remaining 32 teams. I mean, we were here in Augusta, Georgia in the company of a really, God, I love that conversation so much. An NBA upper, upper highest echelon person.
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who shared with us that the price available, all I'm going to say, they would have paid any price. There was no price that was not on the table.
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You know who didn't get a chance to participate?
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I don't think that's up for debate. I think that there is a large body of evidence that confirms this.
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Can the league really live with that outcome? That would be a bad outcome for the league.
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I think at least a billion dollars. I think it's easy. You could easily run a math exercise and get to two billion, I think.
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Well, they have some things that they have to figure out, but they have assets. They have moves.
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Oh, Minnesota's awesome.
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They're in a crossroads spot.
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Detroit's incredible.
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Now we're getting close. Now it's getting a little bit more of a... Yeah.
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I'd rather have Dallas too. I feel like I can get out of my Dallas situation. They're in a very similar situation. Portland? Portland's great.
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No. I would much rather have it be Dallas than New Orleans.
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Hard Dallas. Hard Dallas.
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Anyone, normal person. Well, I mean, that makes it different. The problem with Washington is there has been no validation of the proof of concept. It's been moribund for two decades now.
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I understand.
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They had an awesome team. It's like, you know...
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The most incredible thing, and this is why we should never put ourselves in the position of underestimating what the NBA is capable of, is that the first, what was it, quarter of the season, The narratives were, stop putting the effing Lakers and the effing Golden State Warriors on television. Sick of watching them. They stink. There's nothing those teams can do to improve themselves.
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Exactly. Can you please promote some of these younger players?
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We want to see that. And, you know, ratings down. And they're going to stay down. Like, what can flip this? And here we are now with both of those two franchises. We can't wait to see these Western playoffs.
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That's exactly right. And every one of their TV partners like, yeah, we did it.
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Yeah, it's got to be OKC.
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Wait a minute. Yeah, unless.
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That's right.
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You can afford more than that, buddy.
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I think two things. In the first place, he became the de facto voice of the PGA Tour for all of the processing in professional golf of the rift between the players that left for live and the PGA Tour, and he really was the voice of the tour, making arguments on behalf of the tour. He was the front man, not the commissioner of the tour, Rory effing McElroy. So that is sort of one element of it.
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He was a prominent face and a prominent voice, and he's articulate. He always gives a sincere interview, so there's a likability factor there.
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Yeah. And the other element is this sort of, I don't want to overstate it. It's not tragedy that he can't win another major.
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Yes. Slightly.
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Because he's been super competitive in a handful of majors. There's been this question since the last major he won in 2014, when will he win his next? And he has been super close a handful of times and not able to get across the goal line. So there is that element as well.
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Yeah. Well, he's more of a kind of villain. He's also 54 years old.
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Oh, yeah. Sure, sure. For sure, Phil.
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Yeah. And it's a combination of him having whatever the instinct was to sort of create a personality on YouTube. Like he's a real he's a creator and it's interesting content. And he does the series is breaking 50. He started it in the fall of 23. Uh, and it was a weird kind of moment, um, for him because he had gone over to live.
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I wholeheartedly agree. The interesting thing to me is this whole game flipped in the third quarter.
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People were, you know, in, in two camps still in that 2022, 2023 timeframe. But he's like, you know what? I have this thing I'm going to do. It was, it was the breaking 50 thing and it became very popular. Now it has 1.8 million subscribers, but then he went and played excellent golf.
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on the heels of this youtube thing he played great at the pga championship um last year at valhalla and nathan was there on the grounds experiencing the pop the crowd pop right yeah he chipped in to end his third round on saturday and the place went apeshit he looked into the camera and did the let's go like yeah like he was a youtube creator
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Different kind of game.
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They were up five at halftime. It was 72-67 at halftime.
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Thank you.
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It worked out absolutely sublime, as usual. But the third quarter was 52-25. 52 points in the third quarter for the Minnesota Timberwolves.
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Yeah, T-O-B-O.
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Yeah.
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The interim Memphis coach.
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Thank you.
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The Memphis coach for the moment.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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You think where that team was two months ago, two and a half months ago.
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Thank you.
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It's a team that needs some shaking up. The coach firing... Would you trade for Ja Morant?
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. . . . . .. a, P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P,實 , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , . a el... For the Champions Dinner this week, Chang talked about it. It was the least expensive menu of any menu that any champion coming in had offered up over the last decade because it was like sliders.
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God, no. John Morant makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
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Redfish and chili. Yeah. Right down the middle.
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I agree with this. Because Bryson now, like 2 million subscribers to his YouTube thing, and he gets a plus list people to come do Breaking 50 with him.
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Beefy Bryson.
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No. Well, Jordan, no, no, no, no, no. I understand the marketing stuff. He's beloved in Memphis. Berno reminds us of the trajectory he was on with a Nike relationship and with the league's interest in promoting him.
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1.30 in the morning. An amazing beef short rib and kimchi fried rice by Chef Chang at 1.30 in the morning.
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The number one. He owns Augusta.
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Well, here's the thing. It's the first without Tiger, which is why we began this whole segment. I mean, the thing that is a galvanizing, where is he on the golf course when the tournament starts? And let's go see how many, what we can catch. I mean, the most noteworthy thing from two years ago was the birdie that we saw with our own two eyes on Thursday on the 16th hole.
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And that beautiful amphitheater that surrounds 16. And the roar. He finished the first round at one under, top 10 on the leaderboard, was able to continue his make the cut streak, made cut streak. And we were there to witness. In my memory banks, my sporting experiences, I have a lot of great ones. It will always be there.
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Tiger on 16, you know, at the sort of end of his career, still rocking at the Masters.
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That's you. You'll forever hold that against Russell Henley.
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Poppy McElroy made a putt that was really inconceivable.
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This is your thing. I don't care. It doesn't matter. Part three is a fun thing.
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To be fair, we didn't.
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Scott Van Pelt. Give that man a kiss on the top of his head.
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Sunday night recap, we will be plausibly live for a reaction.
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It wasn't that long ago.
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That's an awesome series.
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There'll be a fracas. A fracas and a fracas. There'll be a Donnybrook. There's going to be an imbroglio. An imbroglio, yes. All of them. They'll all be lined up.
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It is undeniable.
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Yes.
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That's interesting. I do have immense respect for Imei. I do think they will game plan well. to try and do their best to limit Ant. I do think they'll game plan to make sure that Julius Randle has the ball as much as possible.
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95?
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My issue, and I've said it a couple times, I think I said it earlier this week, with Houston is I don't trust them scoring, getting the tough buckets that you need in a playoff series.
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They need the tough buckets in a playoff series where the team has engineered a game plan to take away what you do, what you want to do on offense. in the last six or seven minutes.
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Dallas OKC?
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The league doesn't want that. The league does not want the Lakers and Golden State in the first round.
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Well, let's just pay attention to the referee assignments. That would be one way. You're going to referee assignments? Let's just make sure we're monitoring all the data points that are out there that might impact how you want to handicap these last couple games of the season. Just be mindful. That's all I'm saying.
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That's not what the league wants. The league does not want Denver Clippers and using up all of the juice of this, you know, moment in LeBron's career, this moment in Steph Curry's career. I don't want it. I don't want to see this in the first round. I don't want to see Golden State and the Lakers in the first round.
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I'm dying for Lakers Clippers in the first round.
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Dying for it.
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I can't think of it.
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You would know. You're the one that writes books. I can't think of a time like that.
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I just love that. Did it happen in the bubble? The L.A. conch aspect of it.
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conch. Because Ballmer with his brand new stadium.
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Right? And we finally have healthy Kawhi. The Clippers absolutely positively will not go down. They are not going to let the Lakers bully them. Yeah. And then I quite like the idea of Denver and Golden State. as a series in the first round.
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They were resting guys. What do you want them to do? I don't know. They keep choosing. This is the game where Porter Jr. will sit out. This is the game that Jamal's going to sit up. Jamal's got an injury that needs some nursing.
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I'm flabbergasted by it. I don't understand it. And it doesn't look like, I mean. Why didn't they just fire the GM? That would have been fine.
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I told you. I think that Josh Kroenke should have stood up and said, this is on me. There was a moment a long time ago when somebody in that management structure should have intervened and said, we're not going to let this happen. We're not going to have a poisonous relationship and have tension inside this building.
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This is how they do it. They weren't patient.
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It doesn't make any sense.
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How are they going to salvage it?
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What's this?
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It's the end of the season. What are we doing?
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It reminds us, once again, it's just another chapter in this book that's called This is the Dumbest Fucking Thing in the History of Sports. Chapter 23. The first time that the player that we traded and then immediately started dragging down in every public forum we could.
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And then did a five-minute celebration video of all the incredible things that he did for that franchise to make them relevant They were on an ascending trajectory. I was excited to see them in these playoffs this year with Luka. I bet them to exceed their win total. I was bullish on this Dallas team. It's fine for him to have the injury that he had.
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And he can't let his missed jump shot, you know, his lack of confidence in his jumper impact the rest of his game.
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I really do. And we were on them after the calendar flipped into the new year. We liked where their win total sat, the forecast for how they might end up the season. And they've been as good as just about anybody else. Over the last 50 games of the season, their record now is what, like 36 and 11, something very good.
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Yeah, that's it. And so it's also the case that like there are a different kind of beast in the playoffs and the chops that they acquired by way of making it to the Eastern Conference finals can't be overlooked. I mean, when you get to when you just get those playoff reps the way that they did.
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and faced, you know, Boston, Halliburton went out, but all those other guys, there's a level of confidence. There's a swagger. They are not intimidated by the moment. They're not afraid of the moment. It's a bitch for Cleveland. I'm so bummed out that they don't have Garland because they've been so good all season long that the...
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They deserve the full compliment to go ahead and take a legit run at this season, and they're not going to get it because Garland's absence isn't just a scoring issue. It's part of what you said, Bill. It is the fact that he's not there to bring the ball up. It impacts so many different perimeter defense, so many different aspects of what Cleveland wants to do.
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No.
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Brunson, buddy. Brunson. That's who I would have.
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Yes.
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We're tossing them in the ocean. What pyramid is this? I thought we were doing the 2025 NBA playoff pyramid.
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Yes. Yeah. Brunson's not hurt. Brunson's going into Boston and ripping the heart out of that city.
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Is he out of the top three levels now? This is the NBA, the 2025 NBA playoffs. Show me his signature game in the 2025 NBA playoffs.
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Get him. Get him. I thought...
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All I want to say out loud is it is possible that whatever happened to his wrist in that Orlando series that had him miss a game, and to his credit, he did come back. earlier than forecasted, it seemed like a wrist injury that was going to have him missing multiple games.
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For a team that relies on three-point shooting, this would be the best story to come out, that the wrist isn't all the way there, that he's not 100% comfortable, and that discomfort is also impacting his judgment.
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In the same way that Anthony Edwards, you know, in the first two games, you know, his, at least the first game, the lack of energy against Golden State. And he wasn't great at the beginning of the Lakers series. That's where I was going to go. But for Tatum, if that lack of confidence tied to the wrist has him just, you know, settling rather than going inside. This is the thing that Was just said.
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There's no reason he can't go be a bully. There's no reason that he can't go down low and take on OG Ananobi and try and get to the free throw line. There's nothing standing in his way in that respect. But I'm trying to be generous and gracious with Tatum, BS.
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no jaylen williams brown holmgren aaron gordon murray like it kind of drops off i like aaron gordon the best out of all those names you just said aaron gordon's the only one i'm like hey there's a name guy those guys i mean aside from j-dub those guys are just asked to sort of
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Yes, I did. I did think it was going in.
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I still would pick the Celtics, but man, it wouldn't be comfortable. I wouldn't bet $1 on it. And the hard thing with trying to anticipate what's going to happen in this series is you need to tell me how many minutes Porzingis is going to play. And you need to tell me
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what version of Jalen Brown I'm going to get because it, we just haven't seen that physical version of him be able to play, you know, the full 35 to 40 minutes that the Celtics absolutely positively require to be successful in the playoffs. That to me more than anything has been a missing ingredient in these first two games against the Knicks.
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It's the, it's the guy that can go get that tough bucket and, When we're in crunch time, when we're inside of six minutes, when it's five minutes towards the end of the game, and you need somebody to go get a physical bucket, that was Jalen Brown. That's why he was the MVP of the finals last year. And there's some reason that it's physical, that he's not capable of it thus far in these playoffs.
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I don't like to see you this way, my friend, but it wasn't great. It's tough to defend a title. Let's be real about it. It's tough to defend a title.
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See, I agree with all of that. And I hate to take the conversation in this direction, but the fork in the road moment is for the Celtics. It's not just Tatum. I mean, if they lose... You going to insect third apron on me? I mean, I didn't put you on that apron. The ownership did it. And it was the right thing to do. Let's go see if we can defend the title.
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Well, as we sit here today, it doesn't feel great. The idea of defending the title doesn't seem likely. And it looks like... The team can't afford to keep both Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum.
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that's certainly my view. I had them in ink in the NBA finals against Oklahoma City.
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You had that. You had the same thing. You had them against Oklahoma City. That's the bet we made when the season started. That was our finals matchup.
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I totally agree, and that's the place where Porzingis is so crucial because if you put Tatum... Can you stop fucking mentioning him?
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But he can crash. He's the guy that gets the ball, you know, as Tatum starts his move and the defense collapses in. Porzingis is standing right there to knock down that three, and he's so reliable at that. Okay, I'll stop. I'm sorry.
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This team is better. And this team is... It's the culmination of all of these moves that the front office, the reinvigorated front office that in turn reinvigorated the fan base and created this excitement that's been unmatched since when, Waz? Linsanity? I don't know. What's the last time?
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Yeah, look, I went on the Ringer NBA draft show with J. Kyle Mann, and I couldn't believe the words that were coming out of my mouth. There was a lot of enthusiasm for the direction of this young Washington team. Wow. And if we just get a little bit of luck, honestly, I said this to JKM,
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If Washington gets any of the first four picks, I think there are great players at each of those picks in Washington's developmental mode that they're in right now. And the head coach, Brian Keefe, like, you know, any one of those four guys can flourish. Now, of course, I want Cooper. I mean, we did poop for Coop all season long. So, you know, it would be nice to be rewarded for that.
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But I'm very excited for the direction of the Washington franchise. It's just amazing that both the football team and the basketball team, for the first time in what feels like 30 years, I shouldn't say feels like, for the first time in 30 years, has a direction and a plan. It's just unbelievable.
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Oh God. I mean, he's in the conference. He's in the top 10. So Tim Duncan, I don't, you know who, what he's doing this playoffs.
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He's in the top 10. He's probably top 8. Bill's trying to start trouble. Did you see that?
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And it puts him like, you know, it cements him inside the top eight of all-time players.
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I actually don't really blame James Harden as much. Like he, he is who he is. We keep seeing this version of him at this stage of his career. I don't think it's really fair to like, you know, it's a combination of, you know, the alchemy that the Clippers tried to pull off with Kawhi Leonard at this stage of his career, like not really physically capable of a seven game series, not capable of.
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He showed us his tremendous highs, his capacity for tremendous highs. And the same is true of Harden. And then we got to game seven and neither one of them had, the, I don't know, the athletic verve. I don't know what to describe it. The gasoline. The gasoline. That's exactly right. But, you know. How about your guy Westbrook? Love that man so much.
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Never did. Look, go back and find that clip from October of 2024. You said it every year. You love Westbrook. Well, I said, you know, it could be the Joker's greatest accomplishment, the greatest feat of his career, which is resuscitating the career of Russell Westbrook. Lo and behold, Russell Westbrook is extremely important to this Denver team and their future success.
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It's been a joy to watch these playoffs. I'm a full... Westbrook Stan.
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Can I make a plea on behalf of NBA America? Yeah. Can we please? Now, look, I like Wingstop. I'm a fan. I'm here for it. Can we please no more Jalen Green Wingstop commercials? They got to cut another spot. Yeah. Go find a different guy. Yeah. Nobody knows who he is. And he's out of the... You don't want to tell your customers.
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The subliminal message that Wingstop is sending people is that you're going to have a good meal here once out of every six occasions. That's what... When you put Jalen Green as the face of your brand, you're saying one out of every six times, one out of every six of these tenders is going to be perfect for you.
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Every time it starts, I feel like it's possible. There's a 2% chance it has a different outcome. No, it's Jalen Green sitting in that car on his way to Cancun or Galveston, where Houston really belongs after that future performance. He's going to be on his way to Milwaukee. That's where that car is headed.
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Good luck.
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No, and Bradley Beal didn't do anything wrong. All that man did was sign that giant contract that dopey Tommy Shepard put in front of him, that dopey Ted Leonsa signed off on, and he's just trying to live his best Bradley Beal life. He doesn't really want to play basketball. He likes playing basketball. He likes the money. He likes the life.
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We got to get you a new laptop. I got a new one. I'm working on it. You know what the real issue is? I do have a new computer. It takes the amount of time it takes to get the new passwords. Put your passwords into every single device. The porn passwords or the work passwords? No, so for every app, every single site that you go to requires double authentication.
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It's a double-edged dildo trying to sit there and figure out how to get it. So I'm doing it in 10% chunks because it's going to take me three weeks to get this new machine up. Double authentication. Come on, man. That's a damn Jalen Green Wingstop commercial.
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Well, I don't know if you're going to hear this or not, but only one podcast uses... Well, I don't even know if I should name names because I'm going to... Oh, this is my fault. I was asking for it. Every podcast that I am on uses the same platform, no issue whatsoever, except for one. It's this one. I won't name names.
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What are you talking about? You wanted Riverside? Riverside is seamless and perfect. Nobody has an issue with Riverside.
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It's probably 2016. That would be my guess.
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Trump presidency, year one.
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I do have a modern setup. The problem is that my modern setup is in my house above where my teenager sleeps. And so it's 50-50 whether I can go up there and hoot and holler the way I like, or do I use this remote setup, which most of the time works, but it could be how close we are to the booze. I mean, the booze is right over my left shoulder. Yeah. That could have something to do with it.
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Well, this was the case, you know, kind of all season long. The only way that Golden State was relevant to any kind of conversation was that bad man Curry.
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And I was very nervous at the beginning of the season, all the way up until the trade deadline, that this was a going away affair, that this was basically, you know, the year before the year for his retirement circuit, because Golden State had no prospects whatsoever until Jimmy Butler fell into their laps and And here we are. He can't play, so they're dead.
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Yeah, I have not forgiven them, and I probably won't forgive them. On the Lakers' point, I think that the Lakers were an especially good matchup for Minnesota, and vice versa. Minnesota was just a bitch of a team for the Lakers. And the way that Minnesota was able to
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hunt um luca and really expose luca where he is in terms of of his basketball his playoff basketball readiness he just wasn't physically there luca and so they they were able to um exploit that and what the lakers had in terms of personnel it's an incomplete team and so they just ran those they were exhausted luca and lebron were exhausted every fourth quarter
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And Minnesota was able to exploit that. And, you know, 4-1, that's very impressive. But the way they showed up against Golden State, that's unforgivable. And I'm glad that Chris Finch called out Anthony Edwards. I think that was entirely appropriate. It's time for him to be, you know, the leader that everybody wants him to be. He does set the tone.
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The fantasy draft was good. And Brees Hall wasn't supposed to be just anybody. It was supposed to be a top five offense with this incredible offensive line. And the 40-year-old, you know, lightness and darkness drug experimenter was supposed to lead them to the promised land.
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Brees, so, I mean, well, McCaffrey. And McCaffrey was supposed to be first.
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But to your point, you know, I actually, I would pat ourselves on the back. I think Ringer Fantasy Football, you know, our rankings, I think we were one of the only sites to really move McCaffrey down off the first pick. We moved him to 12th and then back to 5th. But we moved him off first, which I would pat ourselves on the back.
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But then we moved Brees Hall to first, which, man, he was like one of the worst picks you could... Not one of the worst, but I would say, honestly, the most disappointing running back relative to where you take him. I'm putting McCaffrey to the side.
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Wir lachen immer. Ich bin gespannt, was du denkst, House. Wir lachen immer, dass wir Sachen auf unserem Körper tattooieren wollen, wie in dem Film Memento, das wir am Ende der Saison vergessen. Und dann kommen wir zum Juli. Wir hatten ein Tattoo. Am Ende meiner Noten für 2024 hatte ich, dass ich Brice Oliver und Kyron Williams nicht ranken würde. Wir haben es sowieso gemacht.
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Und ich fühle mich, dass unsere Rankingen am Ende der letzten Saison, wenn du uns gesagt hättest, dass Derek Henry in Baltimore gehen würde und Saquon in Philly gehen würde, dann hättest du es auch ranken müssen. Ja, ja, ja.
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Ja, das ist richtig, denn beide Situationen waren unglaublich. Sie waren alle Abstands-Situationen für beide Spieler. Und wir geben nochmals den Krediten, wo die Krediten liegen. Der unglaublich hübsche Craig Horlbeck. Bill Simmons und ich waren im August zusammen. Craig kam an und gab uns seine Top 5. Derrick Henry war seine Nummer 1 unter der Radar-Fantasy-Selektion. You guys were on it.
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I mean, America should have been on it. All of the models should have been on it. Those two guys have been the best. And look at the numbers. There they are.
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Ich glaube, E.T.N. könnte die Antwort hier sein. Er ist nicht so berühmt oder so interessant wie Anthony Richardson. Aber du hast recht. Weißt du was? Wenn du Richardson hast, ist es schrecklich. Du bist wahrscheinlich am angstigsten an Anthony Richardson. Aber du kannst Bo Nix hinzufügen. E.T.N. hat... Ich denke, E.T.N.
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ist der einzig frustrierendste Spieler der Fantasie, vielleicht die ganze Saison. Weil du ihn wahrscheinlich in der zweiten Runde genommen hast. Du hättest ihn vielleicht vorher genommen oder vielleicht... Du weißt, es muss sein, dass wir einen Wert über den Veränderung brauchen. Wir brauchen Angst über den Veränderung. Du siehst dich zurück in deinem Draft. Fantasie über... Ja.
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Yeah, because you look back at the draft recap and you're like, oh, it went Derek Henry, Saquon, Kyron Williams, and then I got Travis Etienne. Like, that's the worst thing you can look back at and see. He's better when he's out, because then you play someone else. When you play Travis Etienne, he gets two and a half points. It's the worst possible thing. It's a farp.
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It's the fantasy anger replacement level.
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We joke on our show that there are certain players that are like, did you know that there's a fourth Jonas brother? There's actually four. Is that really? Yeah, I know, right? I didn't know this either. Craig told me. And we joke that there are certain players every year that are like the fourth Jonas brother. Like you look at the Detroit Lions and everyone on that team is incredible.
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Goff is, I mean, they have more touchdowns than Goff in completions in the last six weeks. You have Jameer Gibbs and David Montgomery are crushing. Amonra St. Brown, Jameson Williams, when he's not suspended, is incredible. And then Oh yeah, I forgot Sam Laporta is on that team. And it's like, you watch the Lions game, they put up 49 points. You're like, Laporta must have done something.
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No, he's blocking.
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Dude, Waddle hasn't had 50 yards since week one.
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Ich denke, dass Mahomes so berühmt ist, dass es sich beeinflusst hat. Um dir eine Idee zu geben. Ich habe das von Ian Harden von Fantasy Life. Patrick Mahomes und CJ Stroud haben weniger Top-12-Finishes dieses Jahr, täglich. Mahomes und Stroud haben weniger Top-12-Finishes täglich kombiniert als Daniel Jones. Oh mein Gott. So, das ist Patrick Mahomes und CJ Stroud.
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Well, if you took my homes, that's on you. Because all you had to do was watch football last season. It's a different offense, a different system, a different set of weapons. If you took my homes and paid for it, you get what you deserve.
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I think the other thing with fantasy, sometimes I think the simplest way to explain why we forget the lessons we thought we learned is that it's kind of like basketball. You look back at a game and you see a score. But actually, especially I feel like now, it's a game of runs, right? Like someone was up 18 and then it gets erased and then someone's up to one. And it's like fantasy.
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It's like, I don't know, the guy I keep thinking of is like DeAndre Swift, who looked like he should get benched for the first three or four weeks of the season. Und dann im September. Und dann im Oktober. DeAndre Swift ist wie ein Top-8-Runningback in der Fantasie. Und es ist alles so. Und du schaust zurück und du schaust zurück und du erinnerst dich auf eine bestimmte Art.
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Aber die Realität ist, DeAndre Hopkins ist jemand, wie du gesagt hast, der von vielen Leuten veröffentlicht wurde. Und weißt du, was mit Kansas City vorgeht? Er ist der erste Spieler, der tatsächlich ein A oder ein A-Plus hat, den Fußball, den Patrick Holmes je gespielt hat, auf jedem Niveau seiner gesamten Karriere.
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Und du sagst, er könnte ein Top-5-Rezeptor sein, nur weil er den Ball von Mahomes fangen kann. Und so, aber wir denken es nicht so, wenn wir zurücksehen. Weißt du, was ich meine? Wir sehen das ganze Ding. Wir erinnern uns auf eine bestimmte Art und Weise.
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Yeah, I mean, if you wanted to trade candidates, I think it's Devon Achan, the running back for the Dolphins. It's a little tough because you're going to have to pay a lot more than you would have three weeks ago because Tua's back and he had a good week last week.
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But the thing is, I don't know if you could give up too much because I think Achan's probably the best bet, along with Derrick Henry, would be the number one running back in fantasy the rest of the way, the veal chop. And basically, it's never too late. You know, change your order of the veal chop. Just do it. You know, it's a little awkward to call over the waiter, but just go get the veal chop.
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Yeah, wait, I misunderstood. I thought you were saying it was a good thing.
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Oh, well, then you're ordering it from the wrong place.
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Never risk a veal chop. You never go in and play veal chop roulette. No. You must know that it's magnificent and then you go have it and it's magnificent. But then how do you know if it's magnificent until you get the veal chop? You let the fools before you go.
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What do I do? Get a steak. Unless you walk in and they say it's the famous veal chop.
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But that's exactly what we did. We let someone else get 8chan. They're the fool. And then they had the whole thing.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
The nearest Arby's to me is like 40 minutes away. You think that I haven't budgeted time in my schedule for later this evening to go out to that Arby's. But I have. Yes, I have.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
It's November. It's all Thanksgiving food all the time. I made cord bread stuffing over the weekend just to get it going, just to get the juices and gooses flowing. Both of them.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Can I get the cornbread stuffing recipe?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
If you need a trade target, Jameson Williams for the Lions is someone who people might be frustrated with him because he was suspended. But I mean, man, the Lions often just get a piece of that. And then if you want waiver ads, this isn't the most sexy advice, but I would say, again... Every year there's five players that just triple your odds of winning the championship.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
And then three are drafted and two are added on waivers. And this year it was like Derrick Henry, Lamar, Jim Daniels. They didn't get hurt. Chris Godwin, Rishi Rice. But then waivers this year, I don't think it's happened yet. I don't think those players, maybe Kate Otten for the Bucks was that guy.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Yeah, it's great. I mean, it started well when the WNBA title was handed by the referees to the Liberty. So that was really cool. And frankly, ever since then, there's been a lot of karmic retribution on every front. So it's been strange after that. But at least we got a title handed. That was kind of cool. House, where's our karmic retribution for Lynx 5-1?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
But going forward, the guy, if Kyron Williams for the Rams gets hurt, Blake Corum is the guy that I think, you know, could just be the top five running back for the month of December. And like only if Kyron Williams gets hurt, Und dann similar Braylon Allen für Brees Hall, wo ich eigentlich denke, Braylon Allen ist ein besserer Fitt in diesem spezifischen Rodgers Offense.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Das ist nicht lustig, hier zu sitzen und zu sagen, oh, du versuchst, einen Schaden zu arbitragen. Es tut weh, aber das ist das, wie Dinge immer in der Fantasie entschieden werden. Also, das sind die höchsten Upside-Player. Und auch seltsam, Xavier Leguette, der Panthers Carolina-Rechiever mit dem größten Akzent aller Zeiten.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Ich fühle mich auch nur so, als würde er eine Menge Garbage-Time-Targets über die letzten zwei Monate der Saison bekommen.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Well, I think Roman Dunzi, it could be because he's the guy that if you've had Roman Dunzi this long, like you're fed up with him. So he's cheap. But Ladd-McConkie, but to your point, you're totally right. It's always like rookie receivers. It's the opposite of rookie wall. They get better as the season goes on over and over. Any rookie receiver, frankly, is a good bet.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Brian Thomas is a good one, too, because he's been good. But now he's banged up and Trevor Lawrence is banged up. So if you're going to make the playoffs. Yeah, maybe Lawrence comes back in December, though.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
I like it because that's what Hopkins delivers to that offense, right? Now that Patrick has his possession guy, the guy he knows that if he puts it within a five-yard radius, the dude's going to get it. Now you can try and spring those big plays and we'll get worthy for those explosive touchdowns. Speaking of explosive touchdowns, I want to ask about my guy, Amari De Marcato. De Marcato?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Du kannst seinen Namen nicht sagen? Schau dir den Namen an und du versuchst es zu sagen, du Arschloch.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Du von allen Menschen. Schau dir den Namen an und du versuchst es zu sagen. House, weißt du, wie ich hier eingeladen wurde? Ich bin die einzige Person in der Welt, die schlechter nennt als Bill Gates.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
I always like to have one guy on staff that's worse than I am. I didn't even submit a resume, I submitted a resume.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
He's the Super Marcado, that's what I'm going to call him, because he busted that run at the end of the first half that really sucked all the life out of the Bears. And every week I look on and James Cook has something next to his name. Oh, Connor. I did it again. James Conner. There's always something red next to that dude's name.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
I think Josiah has it.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Yeah, Josiah has it.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Yeah, it's you kids these days just need enough dopamine. You know what I mean? You never get enough. It's a dopamine league. Yeah, exactly. You know, I mean, maybe that's why, you know, you're never winning these leagues, Bill. You're eight and one and you're just not fine tuning. You know, you're moving on. Like, that's not good enough. Like, you got to calibrate.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
I think, no, I think you're right, though, because you know what the real answer is? I think that everyone, you know, you have one fantasy league. It's great. Vielleicht hast du zwei Fantasy-Leagues und das ist großartig. Ich mache das für meinen Job und ich finde tatsächlich drei oder vier plus und es ist schwer, sich für alles zu kümmern.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Vier ist mein Nummer und es ist mein Job, wo ich sage, oh, ich würde sagen, dass es die Zukunft der Arbeits-Fantasy-Leagues sein sollte. Weil wenn du eine Office-League hast, ist keine Office-League wie ihre Nummer eins Fantasy-League. Ja, guter Punkt. The people who are going to check out, your co-workers checking out.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Guillotine is a perfect office fantasy football league, because it's never going to be your primary, but that way you can check out once you're out. But when you're in it, it's still pretty fun.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Das Problem mit Fantasy Basketball, das ist gut, weil man kann nicht auf Thursdays Streaming-Power-Forwards sein und das ist, wie man in der Fantasy Basketball League gewinnt. Das ist einfach verrückt. Aber das ist nicht so eine gute Idee.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Respektvoll, ich spiele nie wieder NBA-Fantasy. Nicht eine Saison lang. Du bist fertig. Ich meine, es ist preposterös. Du kannst keine Jungs in deiner Linie nehmen und dann zwei Tage später herausfinden, dass er den Hamstring geschnitten hat oder was auch immer. Sie werden ihn für drei Spiele setzen. Ich meine, nicht wirkliche Schmerzen. Ich bin einfach raus.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Aber ich denke, was du als potenzielles Fortschritt für Fantasy-Football beschreibst, ist ziemlich brillant. Für mich ist es das eine oder andere.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Es ist entweder der No-One-Gives-A-Shit, wo jeder Autodrafts macht und es super Spaß macht und wir nur, weißt du, du payst nur Aufmerksamkeit auf Waiver-Wire-Stuffe, versuchst ein Team durch die Räder zu bauen, oder es ist Guillotine, wo du literally den Kopf ausfällst. I love it so much. I wish the league that we're in together, BS, the Larchmont League, that my head was already chopped off.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Because I'm just, I'm trying my best. I want integrity.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
You never have to think about it again. I'd prefer to be out. I don't want to watch DJ Moore anymore.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Terrible. I have one among the worst receivers in the league and you can't win if you have bad receivers.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Ja, ja, sie könnten. Ich weiß nicht, ob 8 zu 1 gut genug ist für einen 24-Punkt-Winn, aber ja, die Giants können absolut gut. Denn, zuerst einmal, lass mich dir etwas sagen. Wenn ich weiß, dass etwas passieren wird, dann wird es sein, dass die Giants ihre Chancen verletzen, um einen Quarterback zu bekommen. Die Giants hatten den 6-Pick im letzten Jahr.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Sie haben die Teams vor ihnen viermal gewonnen. Sie haben die Patriots einmal gewonnen. Und du hast, du weißt, Drake May. Sie haben Arizona gewonnen, haben Marvin Harrison gewonnen und sie haben Washington zweimal gewonnen. Und wenn sie das nicht gemacht hätten, hätten sie Jane Daniels gewonnen. Sie werden das wieder tun. There's like nine teams that have two wins.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
The Giants are going to win this game. And also, I know you guys do million dollar picks. And I know that every week you're like, oh, we're not supposed to do teasers. I'm done with the teasers. Do some teasers. Tease the Giants. Six points. You know, the Giants giving a half a point. Tease the Eagles. Wir haben die Eagles.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Ja, 100%. Die Giants-Defense ist gut. Und die Panthers-Defense ist horrifisch.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Die super lustige Sache, die ich da hinzufügen möchte, ist, denkst du, dass Carolina als Franchise ihre Sachen genug zusammen hat, um diese Reise zu erreichen? Denkst du, dass alle Tränen an der Station an der gleichen Zeit... Oh, weil es ein Deutschland-Spiel ist, ja, ja. Yeah, they're in Germany.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Do you think that Carolina's organizational skill, what they've demonstrated in terms of their ability to navigate logistics, it's like, oh yeah, those guys will all be in perfect shape in this game against the Giants. The only thing that makes me tap the brakes in any way, shape or form when it comes to the Giants is that left tackle. Andrew Thomas is still out on IR.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Yeah, you don't really have an offensive line.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
That's a good point. Panthers are the worst pass rusher in the NFL. It's true. That is the rebuttal. Danny's right. You parlay a Giants alt line with an Eagles alt line. And you get like 20 to 1. Wow.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
I do like this NFC least trying to get in on a way to cash in a parlay or teaser. I'm fine with it.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
He's good.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Neighbors is super exciting. Tyrone Tracy ist der Argument dafür, warum die Giants Saquon Barkley gehen lassen. Und so viel wie es krass ist, Saquon zu sehen, dass er großartig ist und sich über Jungs wiederholt. Die Realität ist, er ist auf einem gewonnenen Team und er sieht besser aus. Aber wie Tyrone Tracy ist ein fünfter oder sechster Rundspieler.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Er macht acht oder neun Prozent von dem, was Saquon macht.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
I can't tell you how ready I am to hand this entire team to Bill Belichick. I can't even begin to describe how quickly I would hand Dexter Lawrence to Bill Belichick. Sprint, gib mir, ja, was auch immer, sicher.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Yeah, it did. So, I mean, I, you know, I live in DC, you know, just like house. And I went to Baltimore camp and I just remember coming back from OTAs the first time, just seeing, you know, they're not wearing pads or anything, but just the first time I saw Lamar Jackson stick the ball at Derrick Henry's gut for like a read option, even in on air, I was just like, this is, this looks iconic.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Ich denke, dass das viel Sinn macht, weil die Jaguars, ich meine, sie haben es mit Tom Coughlin gemacht, richtig? Sie haben Tom Coughlin total kontrolliert, die Organisation.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
It would make more sense to me if he was a big golf guy, because there's an incredible resort. Sea Island is right, right, right, you know, like less than an hour away. Like, respectfully, respectfully, I'll say this, it means you have to go live in Jacksonville.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Wow. I think that was like Talladega Nights with all due respect.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Ich weiß nicht, ob das passieren wird. Das ist ein lustiger Narrativ.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Er weiß. Hier ist meine Frage für dich. Was glaubst du, dass er will? Weil das ist wie ein Phil Jackson-Ding, wo er Kontrolle will, aber er ist wie ein Check, wenn du rausgehst. Glaubst du, dass es wirklich Motivation gibt und dass wir einen Niveau von Energie sehen werden, den wir wahrscheinlich noch nie von seinem 70-jährigen Trainer gesehen haben?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Aber 18 Siege in zwei Jahren, das klingt nicht gut für mich. Wenn er sagt, wir haben drei, zehn Siege gewonnen und verloren in der Wildcard-Runde und dann rettet er. Ich weiß nicht, ob das necessarily großartig ist für jemanden, der literally keinen Track-Rekord hat, von allen seiner Trainer, die irgendeine Art von Legacy haben. Dallas? You beat me to it. Why not? Zero chance. Why?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
No, zero chance. Let's gamble on it. I will serve drinks at your draft. I'll be like Cabana Boy. It's an auto draft. Cabana Boy? Ich habe keine Drafts. Das klingt wie Bob Craft. Yeah, exactly. It's like the Bob Kraft making the talk. Every move Jerry's made for 20 years has been like that. And Parcells is not going to tell Belichick to take that job.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
It feels iconic. It's like a thunder lightning backfield at the same time. And I wish we had gone in on it even more because if, yeah, if you would just stack Lamar, Derrick Henry and Zay Flowers, like you'd be cooking, even you could have survived the Mark Andrews stuff. I mean, the Ravens are amazing. And yeah, every year there's an offense that you want that you can see coming.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
There's no way that Jerry can let Belichick get the credit, make decisions. Jerry wants to get attention and get all the control and all the attention for having control. I think Belichick would sit out another season before he took the Dallas job.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
15, 20.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Das ist ein guter Punkt, weil es ist wie Popovich mit Wenbin Yama, wo es so ist, Reed wird das tun, bis er in den Graben ist. Er ist nicht, bis Mahomes geht, gibt es keine Chance. Warum würde er weg?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
And then there's offense you probably would not have seen coming that maybe you could take a shot on. And yeah, Baltimore is absolutely that team this year that you wish you had been, you know, got the lightning in a bottle.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
The Chiefs actually have a Patriots-like infrastructure because I think there's a weird thing going on in the NFL right now where there's this assumption that youth brings new ideas. And in reality, sometimes youth brings new ideas, but you can also bring the cowardice to stand out.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
And I think a really interesting thing that the Chiefs have is that Andy Reid is the perfect coach, CEO, play caller, stability. Mahomes is Mahomes, and they work together. Die andere Sache, die sie haben, ist, dass Steve Spagnuolo so innovativ ist wie jeder Defensive Coordinator in der NFL. Und wenn er 39 Jahre alt wäre, würde jeder sagen, hire Steve Spagnuolo, um Head Coach zu sein.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Aber er ist 58 Jahre alt, also will niemand Steve Spagnuolo hirten, auch wenn er ein schlechter Head Coach war. 15 Jahre her.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Das war 2009. Weißt du, was ich meine? Die anderen Jungs, die interviewt wurden, waren in der Hochschule 2009. Er hat eine ganze andere Karriere. Er ist der einzige Koordinator, der je die Superbowl gewonnen hat. Und es ist verrückt zu denken, Steve Spagnuolo wird nicht noch einen Job bekommen.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Und so haben die Chiefs diese Infrastruktur von Brett Veach, der GM, Andy Reid, Mahomes und Spagnuolo für, ich weiß nicht, sieben, acht Jahre. Und sie sind alt, aber sie sind immer noch innovierend. Und so ist es alles, was du brauchst. Und sie werden nicht zerstört werden.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
I couldn't love him anymore. And, you know, the thing that matters is how relevant he is to these players, right? He stole some Dallas guys. He brought Doris Armstrong over, who is, if you look at, you know, his disruption rates for Armstrong, he's in the proper court. He's where you want him to be. But Dan Quinn, they're playing for him.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Schefter did a report last week about Washington being a desirable place for Free Agents. What? Washington? This place? The football team? F yes, because of Dan Quinn. I thought that was a weird report. Well, it's fine. I'm just saying the fact that it exists.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
I actually 1000% think that's what wide receivers do, is just look around and look at the greener grass all the time. And game players, they're just like, oh, it'd be so cool if I played with Dame Lillard. Then you play with Dame Lillard, you're like, oh, this kind of sucks.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
House, did you see what Neighbors said last week? Ich weiß nicht, was er sagt.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Well, part of it for sure also, Washington will be in a ton of primetime games next year. Like if you want to be a player that's on a stage, you're going to get a stage with this Washington knocking on wood. I mean, you know, obviously we never take anything for granted.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Wow, definitiv die Giants, weil ich denke, dass sie weiter versuchen werden. Jerry Jones ist einzigartig der wichtigste Spieler in der NFC East, weil er weitergehen wird. Das ist genau das, was Danny gesagt hat. Er gibt nicht ein Scheiß darüber, dass er Fußballspiele gewinnt. Was er interessiert, sind die Assen in den Sitz. Und es wird immer verrückter und verrückter. Es ist phänomenal.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Ich liebe diesen Mann so viel. Jerry hat die NFL gebaut, und ich denke, die Leute vergessen, dass die Cowboys ein Side-Projekt sind, um 20 Millionen Dollar für die NFL zu verdienen. Und dann ist er auch älter als Joe Biden, was relevant ist. Und dann, um das alles zusammenzubringen, Jerry ist ein Fantasie-Football-Einer. Wo es gute Einer sind, wie Bob Kraft, hire Belichick, get out of the way.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Die Hunt-Familie, die nur Andy Reid geteilt hat, got out of the way. Jerry könnte das tun, aber stattdessen will er mit dem Roster tinkern, right? Er will all diese Sachen machen. Er will auf der Kamera sein. Jede Woche spricht er. Wow.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
What the fuck are you doing on camera?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
David Tepper had the record. He was paying. Tepper was like, hold my beer.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
And Ron Rivera, I think Rat Rule took a job at Nebraska, so I think that offset it. But yeah, there was at one point, I mean, the NFL sent a memo to the owners saying, please, we're losing 900 million dollars a year to active coaches. Like basically it was like David Tepper, please stop firing people. But they had to send it to everyone.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
But it was like, yeah, three going on, four coaches on his payroll at the same time.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Thank you for having me. We'll get our thoughts together on the guillotine.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
If he had just done the courageous thing that everybody would have celebrated him for, going for the win at the end of that game, by going for a two-pointer, it would have cooked every tease in America.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Yeah, nobody wants me to invite you to take another shit on the Lakers, but you just did this. You just talked about how many more free throws the Lakers have.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
A lot more physical. Lakers. Low post Lakers.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
I think just Daniels and McLaurin, I think. Maybe some Zach Ertz, sprinkle in a little Ertz. And then if you're really desperate, you know, depending on the size of your roster, there could be a flex spot for Austin Eckler here and there. You know, he gets catches and occasional runs.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
With good reason. The reason for the tease is Sirianni Insurance. We have to buy off all of the moronic things.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
It is. It's Sirianni Schmuck Insurance. I can't say that ten times fast. Sirianni Schmuck Insurance. It's that. It's that. Because that dude is a stone cold schmuck. So you gotta have some way to get out of it. I mean, the Eagles teaser is a lock. You don't need to convince me any further on that leg of it.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
I did know that. And you know, one big element of that, and it'll feature in some of my plays on the Ringer Pregame Show on Sunday, is they are so deliberate with the football. They use up, on average, like... 31 Sekunden. Sie sind die Nummer 1 in der Liga, wenn es um die Spielzeit geht. Sie kontrollieren den Fluss des Spiels, was definitiv zu diesem... Es ist eine sehr gute Defense.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Ich könnte sechs Spieler nennen, aber das macht keinen Sinn. Es ist institutionell. Es ist Harbaugh und der Typ, den er aus Michigan gebracht hat. Und sie spielen nur diszipliniertes Fußball. Ich meine, das ist... The seven and a half down to one and a half against a Titans team where it seems like Will Levis is going to play? Wonderful.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Yeah. Well, because B-Rob was out. So there have been, you know, they've been swapping injuries the weeks that Eckler are out. And if B-Rob's healthy, you get him going. But that would be it. It's not an expansive list. I was hoping that Washington would get another receiver at the trade deadline, but it's okay. We're good. I like where we're at.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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mcconkey like they have guys that can actually get first downs and move the chains well you know what's happening in in over that same time continuum week after week after week justin herbert got healthy he i think i think he really was hurt i mean he he sat out chunks of games did he miss a full game i don't remember early in the season and his mobility is back and they are taking downfield shots
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Und, you know, kudos to Quinton Johnson for getting it together. They took him in a WR1 position, first round of the draft position. Good for him that it looks like it may yet pay off. I mean, he wasn't even drafted. In fantasy?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Es fühlte sich so an, als würde er 50-50 getrennt werden.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Ich liebe es so sehr.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
It's a great observation. The other leg that to me got better is the Chiefs at home against Denver, where that line was in the 8.5-9 range, and now it's down to 7.5, because people are giving so much respect to Sean Payton. I'm not saying that we necessarily should do anything with it here on Million Dollar Picks, but am I going to play a three-leg tease featuring those three teams come Sunday?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Yes, I am.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Bin ich verrückt? Nein? Es gibt vielleicht einige kurze Spiele, aber die Chiefs haben die Broncos. Ich habe die Nummer nicht in Ordnung.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Well, I do think that they're delighted that Dennis Allen got fired, but I will confess, I am very gun-shy when it comes to the Saints team. I personally feel like I had a hand in getting Dennis Allen fired because I bet on the Saints against the Panthers. It was my wise way. All I asked them to do was score 14 points in the first half against the Panthers. They scored exactly 13 points.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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They had a chance to go for two after scoring a touchdown, where it would have made sense for them to go for two and get to 14. But I cannot, after watching Derek Carr... I'm going to have to try and figure out how to say this politely. What he did to Chris Olave... Kaspar Carr? Was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was,
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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They just scare me.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
So I think it's a 50-50 game because you're going to go through and look at the Steelers defense and it will be true that they have a bunch of very good numbers. And then if you consider who they've played, they really haven't gone up against any offenses with genuine firepower yet.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Yes.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Ich meine, ich meine, ich meine, Saquon, absolut, weil ich meine, ich denke, wo du ihn hattest. Ich denke, der große Blick auf Fantasy dieses Jahres, weil ich weiß nicht, ob es ein Spieler ist, so viel wie eine Position. Ich denke, die definierende Geschichte von Fantasy für die erste Hälfte der Saison, alle breiten Receivers sind verletzt. Und ehrlich gesagt, alle Rennbewerber sind gesund.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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A thousand percent true. And part of the calculus for why you would feel comfortable enough taking the Steelers is just Tomlin as an underdog. auf der Straße gegen einen Rookie-Quarterback. Es gibt all diese Zahlen, die man über die Spanie seines 20-Jahres-Karriers sehen kann, wo er Situationen wie diese tritt.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Und er wird sicherlich diese Defense-Mindset haben, wie, Leute, jeder sucht, um diesen Rookie-Quarterback gegen dich zu sehen. Hier ist deine Möglichkeit, zu scheinen. Das wäre der Grund, warum
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Well, I like this Washington defense against Russell Wilson because the Washington defense over the past month has gotten... Very successful marks in terms of pass, rush, win, rate. And they put pressure. They've been very successful in putting good disruptive pressure on quarterbacks. And the Steelers offensive line had been rotating chairs, rotating casts a little bit.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
I'm not sure if that's settled down. But if Russell Wilson is in... Kards, Jets.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
I don't think the Jets are good either. And again, to be clear, the Jets are on my do not. I have two teams on my, I will not bet on either of these teams. The Jets are the Bears. There's no scenario in which you're going to be able to, I don't care what the numbers are, what they say, I'm just not betting on those teams.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Die ersten zwei Rennbewerber auf der Bord, Christian McCaffrey, natürlich ist es eine Katastrophe. Brie Saul, wir nennen ihn Flea Saul, er hat sich verletzt. Die nächsten 16 Rennbewerber waren ziemlich gute Picks außer Travis Etienne. Und dann schaust du dich an den Receiver an.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Well, that's fine. They all have the same thing in common, which is dunderhead nincompoop decision makers out there guiding the schemes. I want no part of the Jets' offensive scheme. Think about all the conversation that we just had with Danny Heifetz and what Nathaniel Hackett did to Brees Hall this season. The number one... So, Arizona has won four of their last five.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Well, look, make it the argue pick. I would say don't bet it and you're gonna bet it. I won't take Jets. Also... I won't take the other side of it. So it's not the argue pick in that respect.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Ich denke, wir können in einer Minute über die Receivers sprechen, aber der kurze Antwort auf deine Frage ist, dass jeder Receiver, außer vier, diese Jahre schlechte Picks gemacht hat. Ich denke, es ist weniger so, als wenn du Running Backs im Mittelpunkt außerhalb der ersten Runde gemacht hättest, dann wärst du wahrscheinlich in einem ziemlich guten Spot.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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No, I think it's the right line. It's a line based on priors. I didn't get a chance to sit down and look at the look ahead, but here's the part of what would help your case going against the Jets. C.J. Mosley, questionable. The cornerback, Michael Carter, questionable. Two safeties, both of their safeties, questionable.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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If they're not in perfect health, that defense, we've seen that defense be super gettable.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Drei Verletzungen in der roten Zone in der zweiten Halbzeit, eine davon wurde in sechs Punkte für das andere Team. Sie gingen nicht ohne Tore in die rote Zone, sie gaben sechs Punkte in die andere Richtung.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
in the first place um dolphins money line would would be attractive to me and then if you wanted to do like do an adjusted line where it's dolphins minus two or something like that um the important thing to me and as we handicap this is for sure what you just sort of outlined which is the dolphins have been unlucky and they are such a different team um
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Sie haben die Möglichkeit, ein bisschen Druck gegen die Rams und gegen Matthew Stafford zu generieren. Es ist wirklich abhängig davon, ob Seiler da ist, und er ist es. Das ist ein wichtiger Element für mich.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Ja, ja, ich sehe sie.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Wow. That's just like a standard. I love that. I love that price. It's the Dolphins plus four and a half.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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And over 42 and a half.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Yeah. In. That's a great one. Great job. Thanks. All right.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
It is funny to think about people from Miami flying to Los Angeles. It's not like a destination for them.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Well, they are 40 and 15 against the spread over the last 55 games. So that's pretty good evidence. You're going to make money gambling on the Lions. I can only come up with, you know... I don't have any... Exes and O's Reason to not do it. It is the case for sure that CJ Stroud over his short career thus far has dramatically better splits at home than on the road.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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It is the case that Houston's defense has been very good on early downs and the Lions are sort of middle of the pack on early downs. You know, there isn't a lot to do. I think it's just, you know, I like that Detroit Moneyline better than messing around with the points.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Hmm.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
I think I like it. I kind of like the plus money. We're just asking them to win the... Yeah. Yeah.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Well, and I'm looking, I messed up the number. The Lions are awesome on early downs and so is the Houston defense. So those two neutralize each other, but Will Anderson might be hurt. And here's the thing that I'm reminded of.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Yeah, yeah. Here's the thing that tips it. Z'Darrius Smith. Do you think that he will be fired up to come in and make a great first impression and put pressure on CJ Stroud in this game? It's an island game, right? And Detroit will want to come out. Yeah, let's do it, man. Whatever you want to do with Detroit, I'm there.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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We're doing it.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
I don't want to do it. I want to sleep. You're leaving out the blowout that I like the best this week. What is it? I like another blowout better. It's the San Francisco 49ers going into Tampa off of a bye week where Todd Bowles as a head coach is 0-6 going up against teams. This is the week where the injuries for Tampa finally catch up.
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It's a very, very tough spot for them coming off of that Monday night. And it seems like we keep saying it. Everybody keeps saying it. McCaffrey is going to be back. And it came at exactly the right time. We were not...
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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... so weit weg von dieser Position ... ... letztes Jahr ... ... mit dem Rekord für San Francisco ... ... going into their buy ... ... right around kind of 500-ish ... ... they came out ... ... and they beat the crap ... ... out of the Jacksonville Jaguars. I think they won like 34-3. I tried to look it up earlier. They blew the doors off.
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And Brock ... ... purr-deez-nuts ... ... is absolutely ... ... Brock ... ... purr-deez-nuts ... With this time, with Shanahan's ability to scheme and what they just watched Kansas City be able to do, I think I'm going to be able to take advantage of all of it. I'm absolutely thrilled to lay the points.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Anything under a touchdown for me with the Niners, this is the portion of the season where the Niners get going. We're all like, oh, this is why we had them at the top of the NFC. Here's the version of that team. I love this spot against Tampa this week.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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14 plus is in my neck of the woods. Because, you know, Baker is scrappy. Baker's been working. I'm so impressed by Baker. Him and Kate Otten are good for something. I really... My tip I had to Baker this season Du klingelst wie Collinsworth.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Er ist wirklich so ein Spieler. Er ist so dumm.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Well, for the record, I'm going to split those two up in my own betting card. And if we're going to put those two together, it can't be for very much money.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Where are we now? I think the receiver thinks a total one-off fluke year and that next year everyone's going to be like tech running backs and next year receivers will be a value. I just looked at the top 30 receivers, you just go through them, like the ones that were in the order they were drafted this year. Ja. Ja. Who were you supposed to take? And I think that's the thing. It's just weird.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Why don't we do both? 20k on the combo platter and what would you say on each individually?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Okay, okay, that's fun. I like it.
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Let's do it. Let's take.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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No, we're doing nothing funny. I'm going to bet $5. I'm telling everybody right now. I'm betting $5 on Jacksonville to win this week because that is one of the funniest outcomes of the week. I'm definitely doing it.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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That's a deep fried turkey. That's my deep fried turkey special of the week.
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I do. I do. I think that what we saw in that offense against Buffalo was very promising. I like them very much in this situation.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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I'll tell you what, I'm not rooting against Washington. But the bet makes sense. The bet makes sense.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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It's the second funniest outcome of the week. Rodgers losing to the Cardinals would be tremendous. That one I will root for. I just can't in good conscience recommend anybody bet on it.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Yes, I mean, the math supports it, their performance supports it, the addition of Zaria Smith supports it, their coaching staff supports it. I mean, I tried to speak into existence, the Packers being competitive. That game was over with a quickness because Jordan Love couldn't move. And Jared Goff had two gloves on and it was perfectly fine. The ball didn't slip one time.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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It would be awesome. I'll have a Christmas ale for it.
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The whole thing. What was your take? What did you make of it? I was so impressed with the physicality of Golden State's defense. It is by far die erste Zeit, als ich ein Golden State Team gesehen habe, wirklich seit 2017, 2018, direkt bis in die Finals, wo alle getötet wurden, 2019, auf dem Golden State Team, wo ihre Defensive Metrics immer super hoch waren über diesen Stint.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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They have a bunch of wing dudes who will go get up into your chest. And they forced double-digit turnovers. The Celtics weren't ready for it. And obviously Jalen Brown wasn't there, I know. But the Celtics still with the pedigree, with their preparation, you expect them especially at home. I think they had 10 turnovers by halftime just because of how aggressive Golden State's defense was.
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I was still mad.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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I like the narrative of Tatum getting off to get his revenge, but Steve Kerr and Steph Curry were like, eh. Good job. Good job, Jason Tatum.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Sie kriegen viel aus Hilde und Wiggins. Sie kriegen viel.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Right. And Wiggins didn't exactly do it in the past year and a half. I mean, Wiggins took off half of a season, a third of a season.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Well, part of it also is, Hield gets rid of the ball effing immediately. It felt very irrational confidence, except for he is a 40 plus percent three-point shooter over his career. And what is he now? He's just under 50 percent so far this season, isn't he? Is he having a great start to the season?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Well, FanDuel had them all the way up to 49 and a half. Their win total moved all the way up there.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Well, 49 and a half is an under and 50 and a half is an under. Because this thing works as long as Steph Curry is upright and healthy. And it's still asking a lot, a lot of Buddy Heald and Wiggins. Those guys have to be able to do it for a full season. It's been a minute since we've seen that.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Top 30 guys, all but four, are bad or hurt.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Du hast das nicht zu mir gesendet. Ich bin in Washington, D.C.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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I mean, I'd rather have Atlanta at whatever number they're at than Miami to win that division. Well, yeah, well, I mean, because of the potential upside, I think the upside for Atlanta is still there. There is no upside for Miami. They're in, what is it? It's not downside, they're in hold side. It's neutral side.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Go ahead. No issue.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
No, it's a great hedge ticket to have if that finals comes to pass, like Eastern Conference finals comes to pass.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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They do not have the same kind of depth as Oklahoma City. If there's a trade, then maybe... They're playing 10 guys.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Ich gehe nicht auf Buddy Heald und Andrew Wiggins. Ich mache es nicht.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Keeps doing it.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Well, here's the thing. Washington, those guys are starting. They're playing. They're getting minutes. I'm going to lose my Bezelis bet because Chicago is playing too hard. They're trying to win. They're not letting that kid get the time that I thought that he was going to get. And meanwhile, all your kids are playing.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Wemby, was hat er angefangen? War er nicht Minus?
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Yeah, so even odds, but it's probably like, you know, now we're in the territory of a good price for Wemby.
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Es ist ein guter Fit. Und ich bin hier dafür. Und ich werde ein Shirt tragen, das sagt... A Lose Benyama? A Lose Benyama, ja.
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It's both. It's both things. And get off a few dick jokes. You know, that's always an obligation and a requirement. But I look, you know, the receiver thing, I was bullish on Dalton Kincaid as a tight end who might get receiver-like looks. That hasn't come to pass. But my own receiver core, we just, you know, you hear him right out of Danny's mouth.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Wenn wir über und unter waren, hasste ich die 42,5, weil 43 Gewinne so wenig sind. 43 und 39 mit diesen beiden Leuten auf dem Team. Ich werde jetzt einige unter 45,5 kaufen. Ich werde es machen. Das ist zu hoch. Ich meine, weil ich glaube, dass wir die 42 und eine halbe verlieren werden, weil sie 43 oder 44 oder 45 gewinnen werden, was gut ist, aber nicht 46.
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Ich meine, das ist wirklich der Wager und es ist ein bisschen dumm, aber das ist, was ich denke.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Ja, genau richtig.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
The Hawks continue to be one of the worst against the spread teams. We thought, oh, that was just last year's aberration. It's still the same. God damn it.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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I don't know what to do about Philly. I'm taking the L on our season over under thing. But how do you bet Philly now? What's the angle? Don't do anything?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Wow. All of this will be so far in the rearview mirror if they arrive come like the second week of March, third week of March, and those three guys are healthy. And they're going to be in the play-in, right? They're going to be like the 7-8 seed, which will be fine. They'll win. And then they're going to be an unbelievable matchup against... Boston or Cleveland or the Knicks in the first round.
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Boston has got their number, but Cleveland or the Knicks in the first round against Philly. I mean, we just had that. We had the Knicks Philly in the first round this most recent year.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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I mean, I'm going to have to do it. I have to do it. I have to buy out of my position.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Du meinst, einen Rennen zu einem anderen Team? Du hast mich endlich daran überzeugt.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Jalen Waddle, Sucktastic, Devontae Smith, second fiddle, Makes a spectacular play once every three games. Great. If DJ Moore, that DJ Moore Caleb Williams was supposed to be a real thing. B.S. I paid. How much did I pay for him? I don't even want to. Too much.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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It was a nice block by the Watson kid. But it took extraordinary effort by Denver. It took a throwback Westbrook game.
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Still good.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Curry 6th? Sure. Durant 7th? So here's the thing that I just want to make sure that we talk through having both those guys ahead of Anthony Edwards, who is, I think, still even with the, you know, the slow start for Minnesota. Isn't he still the best two way player in the game?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Weißt du, was lustig ist? Und ich verurteile dich nicht daran, aber in meinen Augen habe ich gerade die Olympias gesehen und gesehen, dass sie die großen Brüder für ihn sind. Er war der kleine Bruder auf diesem Team und seine Rolle war wichtig. Seine Beiträge waren unglaublich. Aber die zwei Leute zu sehen, als es Abendzeit war, es war, weißt du, Curry besonders. Ich werde nicht mit ihm reden.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
28 I paid for in our auction league. Yeah, just take that 28 and stick it where the sun don't shine. That's all.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Not on my list. I like both of them. They're not in the top 10.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
In the finals MVP, I would say so. Yeah.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
It's the best. He's the coolest.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
I want to say it respectfully, but the guy's like right behind him in this list. Not putting bitch ass. I won't say any names. I had it, LeBron. Come on.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Well, because he's earned it and because his defensive metrics remain. I mean, I don't know what they are through these first seven or eight games, but like the underrated quiet part of his game, how he inflicts his will on games. It doesn't show through box score-wise. It doesn't even really show through when you're sitting and watching, except for that he tilts the floor defensively for them.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
That's how they end up winning mid-40s. I don't know, man. The names you have behind him don't deserve to be ahead of him, in my humble opinion.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Der, der ich denke, einen Lauf machen wird und uns wirklich hart arbeiten wird, ist Tyrese, wenn er zurückkommt von diesem Händestring-Beschwerden. Weil er krank ist. Ich meine, sprichst du von Jungen mit zweijährigem Potenzial.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Auf der einen Seite sollte es uns nicht überraschen, dass es funktioniert, außer auf der anderen Seite, dass es funktioniert.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Yeah, well, you got to the Brunson part. The Brunson part is the part to say out loud. Yeah, because he's playing with the top three point guard. Point guard, real point guard.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
I mean, you're not going to hear me argue to the contrary. He came out on fire with a commitment to the defensive end that was the project for the summer when they broke. It's like, Chet, here's what we want you to do this summer. A, keep eating. Go to Arby's once a week. But B, we want to see some rim protect. We want to see those rotations. So can you work on that? And he showed up.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
He's like, hey, I'm here. I'm doing my rotations.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
I love it.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
No, because it's so early and we're just sort of like trying to be measured, trying to have a little bit of a proper reaction. I like that you gave some extra credit to the OGs because of how they gave another gold medal to America, like that aspect of it. But this is, you know, it's constantly evolving, it's constantly a work in progress and it's going to be fun.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Wenn wir das wieder in einem Monat machen, wie wird es aussehen? Wer ist am meisten möglich, rauszukommen und wer ist am meisten möglich, reinzukommen?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Great.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Always the best time. Thanks, buddy. Good luck gambling.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Ja, Sterling Shepard, der Thompson, ACL Achilles aus den Giants gespielt hat und jetzt spielt er für Tampa.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
It's really stupid and dumb. Huge waste of time. And I think the answer is it's a chemical addiction I have. I don't know about you guys, but I think that I... Oh, it's like vaping? Yeah, basically. You know it's bad. Yeah. Genau. Ja, ich will nicht mehr daran teilnehmen, aber ich kann nicht aufhören. Aber nein, es ist, die ganze Sache ist verrückt.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Ich denke, dass es ehrlich gesagt, in einer Saison, ich denke, es ist wichtig, nur herauszufinden, es gibt vier Lernplätze zu nehmen, oder vielleicht sind es zwei Lernplätze zu nehmen und vier Lernplätze, die Leute denken, sie sollten nehmen.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Und ich denke, halb der Schlüssel ist, zum Beispiel, wenn man in die nächste Saison geht, werden die Leute sagen, oh, die Receivers waren schlecht, nehmen die Runter. Und es ist so. Yeah, they all got hurt with hamstring injuries. It was kind of weird. Don't zag too hard. Yeah, don't zag too hard.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Similarly with the waiver thing, everyone had Kyron Williams and Pukutukua, the biggest waiver additions of the whole year were made in week one. So everyone this year was like, Isaiah Likely. And it's like, well, actually some years it's a lot more like two years ago, Jarek McKinnon from December 1st on in 2022 had like led the league in receiving touchdowns. Let me recommend this.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
I'm in a fantasy league.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Das ist literally called the no one gives a shit league. And we, every single person in the league, sets up auto draft. The draft takes two and a half minutes. Nobody does one thing. All we do is get the thing set up. There's 10 teams. I don't know how big the roster is. You know why? Because I don't give a shit. Aber es gibt dir die Möglichkeit, gegen diese neun Freunde die Waver Wire zu machen.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Und wir haben eine Standard Waver Wire Sache. Und wirklich ist es nur eine Möglichkeit, als ich von Woche zu Woche gehe. Es ist wie dieser Kerl. Oh, ich liebe diesen Kerl. Ich habe ihn schon lange nicht gesehen. Lass mich ihm eine lustige Note schicken. Oh, dieser Kerl, dieser Kerl. Ich werde es ihm stecken.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Lass mich versuchen, den Waver Wire zu holen und die gute Defense dieses Wochenende zu stecken. But really, that to me, that would be my recommendation. If you insist on playing fantasy, that's one way to approach it.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Craig Horlbeck's greatest take of all time. You know, shameless plug here for the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. Craig's best take ever is that prepping for fantasy football is a huge waste of time.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
I actually think, I swear to God, I actually think that that might be the best strategy in fantasy. You know why? Because when people do all these advanced statistic modeling and everything you could do with fantasy football, I actually think what people forget to include is the value of trades.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
I think what people forget is that, oh, in theory, receivers are worth this and quarterbacks are worth this, running backs are worth this. But three or, let's say, four weeks into the season, when there are injuries and you start to get bye weeks, everyone in the world is like, I'll give you a receiver for a running back.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
And no one wants to trade a running back for a receiver three weeks of the season. You take a little risk that someone gets hurt in week one or two, or you take a risk that you have a Zemir White who just immediately sucks.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
But for the most part, if you make it three weeks, you can flip David Montgomery or Joe Mixon for someone who is drafted 30 spots higher if you wait three weeks, which if you look at it by the principles of any other form of real investing is like incredible. You really probably should just take 10 running backs and then just keep four and flip the other four and no two will get hurt.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The State of Fantasy Football, 25 Best NBA Players, and Million-Dollar Picks With Danny Heifetz and Joe House
Drake May. Drake May ran for 95 yards last week.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The Aggro Lions, the Sleeper-ish Hawks, Million-Dollar Picks, and Jesse Ventura on His Surprise WWE Return
I really get it.