Apex Josh Allen, the Goofy NFC North, Week 2 Picks, and Bill’s Breakup Letter to the Clippers | With Tom Pelissero and Joe House
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What are Bill Simmons and Tom Pelissero saying about the Lions‑Bills game?
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Bill Simmons podcast. We are live on Netflix Thursday night on the tail end of Lions Bills. Tom Palacero is here. He joined the Ringer very recently. He's back in the United States. He launched a new newsletter called The Sweep, and you can find him on Ringer NFL show. as well. So Thursday night, impossible schedule spot for the lions. They're coming off an overtime game against new Orleans, 70 minutes, basically. Then they have to go here. They have to open the Buffalo stadium. They have secondary injuries and everybody who follows shit like this is like, this game's going over. This game's going over the overs climbing. The over goes low fifties. We're in the mid fifties. By the time the game starts, we end up 41 31.
I wish it was always this easy with gambling, Tom, I guess would be my starter here. I wish we could just look at these games and go, this is definitely what's going to happen. But what was your big takeaway watching this one tonight?
Man, I think I texted you before the game, Bills score 40 plus. It's one of those games. You nailed it. It's one of those games that you just looked at it. They're totally decimated in the secondary branch
and
Jennifer on pop DJ reads banged up. Obviously Terry on Arnold's long gone. I thought it was going to be DJ more running circles around those guys. He gets hurt and they still put up 41 points. Just throw the ball to Dalton Kincaid and run it with James cook. They look like an absolute force right out of the gate here.
I'm going to start with Josh Allen. You might've heard of him. Realize this. I mean, he's, so he had another, I talked about this. I did a mailbag this week. Somebody sent in a question about people who have had two running touchdowns and two throwing touchdowns in the same game. And this tonight was his 10th. And the next guy in the list had like four.
So he's like, can
we just, yeah. Can we name this after Josh Allen and just call it? Oh, he got a Josh Allen and he's done it in both games. He is the most fantasy points scored in the first two weeks of a season since 2000. He's over 80. Um, He's halfway to Emmitt Smith's career rushing touchdown record. He's, I think, at 83. Emmitt at 164. He's only 30 years old. And looks like he's on a mission. And the thing that might take away watching him Sunday and then today, and I've always felt like he was the best quarterback in the league. I feel like he's clearly the best player in the league now. And do you think that's like, if there's an argument against that, who is the argument that it's somebody else? Because it just feels like he's peaking even for him.
And I don't know who's in his class anymore. I mean,
there's some unique athletes, but nobody plays the game like Josh Allen and nobody does it consistently as productive as Josh Allen. Like, I mean, Lamar's won two MVPs and in those seasons, he's done like totally ridiculous stuff, both running and passing the football. I'm just always struck watching Josh play because there's no other quarterback who who you're just that afraid is going to run you over
and
also then can pull the ball and throw what he, it was early in the game and he's scrambling. I think it was on a third down tonight and he gives like the really hard pump fake while running to his right. And you see the linebackers DBs just stop. And then they're like, oh crap. Now we got to try to chase the guy. We have no prayer. He just, he can hurt you in so many different ways. There's a lot of good quarterbacks right now, but like you, If you see Joe Burrow barreling down on you inside the five-yard line, you like your chances. Yeah, you're hitting him. Yeah, against Joe Burrow with Josh Allen, it's like, do I even bother trying to get in his way or should I just become shrapnel here?
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What are Bill Simmons and Tom Pelissero saying about the Lions‑Bills game?
0:06–9:33
2
How do they break down Josh Allen’s historic start and the Bills’ offense?
9:33–24:15
3
Why are the NFC North teams and other AFC contenders being compared and debated?
24:15–46:48
4
What is Bill Simmons’ “breakup letter” to the Clippers and why are they asking to be released from season tickets?
46:48–59:58
5
What are the hosts saying about the NBA, the Clippers controversy, and the latest league rumors?
59:58–1:12:09
6
How does the conversation shift to the NFL’s expansion plans and the ownership‑clean‑hands debate?
1:12:09–1:21:47
7
What trends and match‑up analyses do they use to build their Week 2 NFL picks?
1:21:47–1:41:19
8
How do they wrap up the episode with final Ringer 107 picks and the show’s sign‑off?
1:41:19–1:53:51
Speakers
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