Joe Hudson

But it's like, oh, it's like, oh, it's like the devotional surrendering.

Then there's the masculine form of surrender, which is there's a doing that needs done.

And it's not my will.

It's thy will be done.

I hear the thing that I'm supposed to do, and I follow that without question.

That's, I would say, the masculine form of surrender.

Meaning it's the more yang, less yang kind of thing.

And so the way it works for me is like deeply listening to that calling and doing it.

And in that, like my want, my wants are actually...

a deep part of my evolution, meaning a little kid wants to learn how to walk.

You can see it.

They have that deep want.

I trust my wants the same way, that the wants that I have today are the things that will help me grow as a human being, are the things that I'm, are the places that I want to contribute.

And I was just talking to Charlie about this.

Charlie Hooper at Charisma on Command, both dear friend.

Yeah, yeah, great human.

I was just talking to him about this.

I was telling him, you know, his audience is young men and I'm like, grinding is bullshit.

It's just absolute bullshit.

And I said, but that's coming from a guy who works from like 7.30 in the morning until 10 o'clock at night.