Joe Hudson

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Joe Hudson, welcome to the show.

Feels different to speak to you now.

It feels different.

Yeah.

The audience will know that I spent a long week with you at your intensive retreat.

Yeah.

So yeah, to now sit down back in my domain after having spent a week desperately trying to survive in yours feels somewhat different.

It was a very strange, very meaningful experience, especially given that it's completely sober.

There's a lot of talk of how important it is to, how popular it is at least, to do the psychedelic trip down to Costa Rica or the ayahuasca DMT thing.

You can get pretty far without having to add anything in except for a morning coffee if you've got the right container and practices.

Harvard, who's doing the study?

So it doesn't surprise me.

One of the questions that came up after we spent a week together was, is it hard to live in the real world with an open heart?

That was one of the first questions that I thought of.

So we have that pattern.

I think, is it hard to live in the real world with an open heart?

It came to me as a question because it was pretty easy to do it within the container of this very gentle, very understanding, very...