Baseball Isn’t Boring
Best Shape Of My Life Club: Red Sox Strength And Conditioning Coach Joe Hudson
13 Jan 2026
Chapter 1: Who is Joe Hudson and what is his role with the Red Sox?
Yeah, there should be some passion. This doesn't have to be boring. Okay, there's no human being on the planet that I would rather... give us advice for the best shape of our lives club than Joe Hudson, strength and conditioning coach for the Boston Red Sox. There's nobody.
And, uh, Joe, it's not only because we share, we went to the Harvard of Alden street, Springfield college, both of us, which we just realized, but also because it's a very important and a lot of people are on this call along on this, on this, uh, I guess podcast, but who have joined the club and, uh, And it's important that we steer them in the right direction. And that's why I rely on you, Joe.
And the first thing I will say is that you understand what we're talking about when we say, when all these guys, you've already probably had it when they've come into winter weekend or whatever it is, said, hey, Joe, I'm in the best shape of my life. I saw Zach Kelly come in to Yardhouse yesterday. And he said, I'm in the best shape of my life.
It's like, well, I'll let Joe be the judge of that, all right? So, first of all, thank you for joining us. I really appreciate it.
No, thank you for having me. You know, most of the time when people come in, they're like, I'm in the best shape of my life. There's usually some question marks there. Zach Kelly might be in the best shape of his life right now. He looks great. I don't know what he was like, you know, 10 years ago, but he looks great.
Give me someone else. This isn't telling tales out of school. Give me somebody else who's like, okay, they may be in the best shape of their life. Because I always ask Alex Cora this, and he gives me, you know, he always picks one. It's fine. Like, last year it was David Hamilton. But you are dealing with science. You are dealing with, like, here are the facts, right?
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Chapter 2: What does it mean to be in the 'Best Shape of My Life' Club?
Yeah, there's, um, I mean, Zach sticks out, uh, just from the other day, just seeing him, uh, you know, he passes the eye test, uh, right now, which was, which was great to see. There's, there's a few guys on that list that, uh, you know, that are, that are up there.
I think the younger guys, like it's easier for those guys to, um, easier for those guys cause they're still kind of in their, in their prime and they should be kind of stacking physical gains every year. Um, You know, our younger group, Roman, Marcelo, Casey, they all look great right now. So those guys stand out.
The key will be if they can maintain being in the best shape of their life as they get a little bit more established. But, yeah, Zach definitely looked great when we saw him.
Well, and as our friend Bob Connors, who's on this call, and one of the few who have a baseballs and boring tattoo, which, by the way, Joe, you can commit if you want right now like Alex Cora did. He said, if you win the World Series, you get a baseballs and boring tattoo. You know, it's up to you. No question.
No question. Let's go. I'm in. We'll go together.
So but as Bob points out, like Marcelo Meyer came on our show or really I was interviewing for the radio. And Trevor Story said that they were all like, oh, my goodness, Marcelo Meyer beat one in sprints, like was the fastest guy. And they had to check the technology like 50 times and say, oh, wait a second. Did that happen? Did that happen? Can you confirm that?
Is this like a scientifically proven thing?
I was not there, but reports were that he was ahead. So that's what the word on the street is. Everybody that was there at Story Camp all had the same message. So I think that's probably as much confirmation as I can give there. But yeah, he's quick. All right, fair enough.
So like you said, we started this as playing off the cliche, Best Shape of Life Club, and we've been asking all different people, players, managers, GMs, fans, everybody, just to pick one thing to say, by opening day, I want to be in the best shape of my life, or I want this as a goal. And it's better than a New Year's resolution, Joe, because, first of all, you're in a community of people who,
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Chapter 3: What is the importance of consistency in achieving fitness goals?
everybody's pulling for you. You're just picking one thing. You're not overwhelmed. And people have been so great about it. And we've also like, but we also want to add support. And this is sort of where you come in. We want to steer them down the right path in whatever way they can. And we have some people on the call and we'll have them ask questions. But I think that for you guys,
You've seen sort of the different iterations of athletes, and it doesn't have to be athletes. You've seen regular people. When you look at somebody who starts a process like this, like for maybe a baseball player, it's in November or October.
But when you see someone start a process, what is the best piece of advice you can give them in terms of the mindset that you have and what is important when you dive into something like this?
Consistency. Without a doubt, being consistent with whatever it is is going to be better for you in the long term. Stacking small incremental gains over... you know, day after day after day. And you're not going to, you know, it's not linear. Progress is never linear. You're going to have good days. You're going to have bad days.
But showing up and being consistent towards whatever it is, whether it's a weight loss goal or a strength goal or, you know, running 5K or the marathon, like whatever it is, like showing up and being consistent is by far going to get you the best results.
And so when people do this, like for instance, obviously the New Year's, we started this right around the New Year's. You have that first week. Everyone's jacked up. And I can give quotes of the day and everything else. So you say be consistent. But then it's like, and I go with baseball teams, it's maybe a little bit different because there's check-ins.
But when you say consistency, what is the thing that you feel like? What is the thing that you felt helped people get over that Okay, we've done it for a week now. Maybe I can reel back a little bit. Is there any little thing that maybe you're experiencing? All right, this is going to keep you going. Is it incentives? What is it?
Yeah, I think everyone probably has a different like driving, you know, driver for that, uh, different motivation. You know, they get motivated in different ways. Um, I would tend to lean on like the accountability piece, right?
So having a network of people that are supporting you and continuing to check in on that goal or like are along right there alongside you, like fighting for a similar goal, um, because someone else is holding you accountable. Um, because it doesn't, you know, again, saying consistency being the number one thing, like it gets hard to be consistent after a while.
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Chapter 4: How can athletes maintain their physical condition during the off-season?
So, you know, having this group and having groups of people that are all in a similar, you know, kind of similar journey, regardless of what it is, like, you know, that the person next to you has a goal and you're going to work for it together.
Well, we pay people in T-shirts and parties at the end. Whatever works. That's the carrot. But along with actually accomplishing something. Because people like examples, and you mentioned Zach Kelly, but there must be for you, I've seen it before, where a guy does come in looking unbelievably totally different.
And for a baseball player, you're talking about, let's be realistic, November, December, January, and then half of February. But they can look totally different in that time. But give me an example, if you can, of someone who you took that advice that you said and implemented and maybe is the great example for everybody that, hey, you know what?
They did this in this three-month span and anybody can. Was there one that jumps out for you? It could be even minor leagues. It could be major leagues. It could be anybody. You can't mention Aroldis Chapman because that doesn't count.
Yeah, he's kind of like peak physical physique all the time. But, no, I mean, there's a lot of guys that have cemented themselves over the course of my career, particularly minor leaguers, just because... they're in that prime window of really being able to take advantage of the age and where their physical stature is in the current moment.
I don't know if I can name anyone in particular that stands out, just because that's kind of what our expectation is, particularly in the minor leagues, too, is... you want to make a strong push to, like, put yourself at the front of the pack, like, you physically change yourself, you know. And that's a great point. You add a bunch of weight. Like, you add a bunch of strength.
And, you know, that's the expectation at the big league level is that, like, you're closer to that physical ceiling already. So making, like, huge, huge gains, like, don't happen as often. But definitely in the minor leagues, like, guys –
come in and they're you know 20 pounds heavier and you know 18 of it's like just muscle and all of a sudden they're hitting the ball way harder and you see those stories happen a lot more and that's what we want to have like for our minor league guys is to put in that that body of work in the offseason that really turns some heads um and i think for guys like
you do i can't think of like one specific instance no no that's okay but you know i think that to your point i think you hit a nail on the head is that if you want to separate yourself and you know i go to this club right like i see people on our chats i can tell they're separating ourselves i can tell them like that they're separating themselves from everybody else so um
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Chapter 5: What role does nutrition play in an athlete's training?
A lot of that kind of starts with some ground-based work, making sure their pelvis is in a good spot, right? So turning their core on, engaging their glutes, engaging their hamstrings to kind of set a good quality position and then make sure that their legs can independently rotate internally and externally through their body. I'm always going to start there.
And, and I think that's like, just for general, like good general health purposes, uh, you know, walking, running, you talk about going down and playing some baseball, like you're going to be exposed to sprinting. So like the, the, um, the more freedom you have there, like to, to work through some areas that haven't maybe gotten the attention, particularly with like running, um,
that you're doing up here, assuming like you're up in the Northeast and you're not like sprinting outside in the snow. Um, those are going to be those things that like keep you kind of healthy and more resilient.
Hamstrings. Yeah, for sure.
So a lot of people go towards like the hamstring stretching. Like we want to make sure they're strong in that they're in the best, like most optimal, like position, meaning like, they're not over lengthened or under lengthened so that they can perform within like their normal, like their, their normal ranges.
So, and good question, Bob. And we're, and hopefully like you're more limber than ever by the time you hit the, hit the ground in Fort Myers. But, you know, one of the things I know that a lot of people in our community, you know, it's weight loss. And we're obviously a WAKEN 180s, great weight loss place. I lost 50 pounds with WAKEN.
But there's people who want to do it a variety of different ways. And I know that in players, this is a challenging thing. Like nutrition is like a very challenging thing. But people understand. And now they're young and their metabolism is pretty good, much better than me. But it's late-night eating. There's everything that can be bad. So for you, I guess you're speaking to the group here.
When you're talking about nutrition, about maybe staying the same weight or maybe even losing weight, from your perspective, from the strength and conditioning perspective, what is the nutrition aspect that you say that you really want to prioritize?
Yeah, well, first for the player perspective... we're generally not driving guys to lose weight. You know, a lot of times we're trying to battle them losing weight and just, like, maintaining or gaining just because there's, you know, so much on-feed activities.
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Chapter 6: What are effective strategies for achieving weight loss?
it's going somewhere working out in the morning what is it taking a nap coming back and working like no other there i mean there's a reason he's you know his age and still doing it with the best of them um and looking the way that he does and all of that like he is very very regimented and all of that stuff And then like eventually what happens at this, that just becomes your norm. Right.
And that's how you, it's a lifestyle change and that's just how you live your life. Um, and that's what it's been for him is like, he is like, I do this at this time. I do this at this time. I do this at this time. Like he's taking a nap and then he's. throwing a hundred and picking up a save for us, you know, sometime around like nine 30.
I think that's, again, that's sort of the theme that we can take away is a, we can lock in in terms of that norm that what that norm is. And, I have to tell the quick story of, like you mentioned, most of the guys are losing weight, and the first one that jumps to mind is Zidane Raffaello. He can't put on weight, right? This is a challenge.
But I also, throughout my time covering it, I've seen guys who have battled, and I remember the time where Josh Beckett pulled me aside and said, they're taking the ice cream machine away from us. I want you to write a story how I'm going to demand a trade unless they put the ice cream machine back.
Yeah, different times. I mean, there is more light shed in the... the nutritional side of things and guys are more concerned about what they put in their bodies a little bit more just because like generally that's where the trend of performance enhancement is gone and um There's less of that these days.
There are a couple of clubhouses that do have some ice cream machines, and they didn't get used as much as I thought they would, but they still get used. It's totally different, right?
I mean, I think it's totally evolved. Put it this way. When they come to camp, there's no longer, I'm putting on the George Scott rubber suit and smoking the cigarettes, and I'll get in shape over the next five weeks. Guys come to camp like they're ready to go. We joke about the best shape of our life, but that's it. They're going to these places. They're paying a lot of money.
They're investing a lot of money to hit the ground running, I guess is what I'm saying.
Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, you have to now with just with like how much like access there is in the off season to different technologies that help from like a performance side of things with, you know, private facilities that have track man and force plates and everything that you need to like track your progress. Like guys are showing up in the push for like,
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Chapter 7: How can accountability impact fitness goals?
Um, that, that for me would be one. Um, and then, you know, I, They're all kind of, like, it depends questions. Like, everything's always, like, it depends.
Unfortunately, I get kettlebells in my algorithm now. Like, I get a lot of kettlebell exercises.
So, yeah. For me, a second to that would be, like, a reverse crunch. Just because it's generally pretty, like... easy to execute with whatever limitations you have going on. You can modify it really easy if you have lower back problems. You know, something that like the...
the general population, regardless of what you're feeling and what your, you know, what your physical fitness level and strength is, is you can find a way to do it. Um, you know, laying on your back, holding onto something and then just curling your knees up to your chest. You can start as simple as that. And then you can progress getting more advanced by like straightening your legs out.
So the levers longer, right. Which is putting more demand on your core and You know, you can curl up and then like push your feet up towards the ceiling. And there's a lot of different variations of it that all kind of stem from that one foundational exercise that like covers, you know, across the board of where you're at from a physical perspective.
This is good. My takeaway is that I will follow Aroldis Chapman on Instagram and hence I will find an app. So, uh, but I just, uh, I just want to give people last chance if they have any questions that could be about the personal, the personal goals to Joe, but also just sort of, this is the opportunity to sneak behind the curtain when it comes to this stuff. Uh, Casey, I see. What do you got?
Do you have a question? Yeah, I got a question. Joe, thank you for doing this. And Rob, thanks for setting this up. This is awesome. So I'm looking to lose a little weight. I want to be around 185 on opening day. So I used to play ball. So I took, you know, 10 years. I was always trying to gain weight and eat to gain. So now I'm kind of going the other way.
So what's kind of a good split in your mind? I'm starting to get into running more. I walk all the time. But what's a good split between
running and sprinting and how often would you say to do both on the running side you know is it is it for speed or distance um what's kind of your breakdown there good question yeah from a like if you're talking specifically about like losing weight to meet your goals yeah um
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Chapter 8: What are some recommended exercises for improving flexibility and strength?
you got to start slow if it's been a while. All right. Cause we're trying to avoid like setting ourselves back a little bit, but I can't blow it. I mean, yeah, exactly.
So, you know, in some of your timed mile stuff where you're trying to push the limits that you're going to hit a little bit faster speeds than you would say, if you're just going out for an easy mile run, it's like, you have some opportunities there to like during that mile go, okay, this next step,
um i don't know this next like 30 seconds i'm gonna run at a higher intensity than i would on my average and then i'm gonna back off and then maybe i'll do it again in you know a minute and a half or so and and that's gonna help like increase the intensity of which you're running which will get closer and closer to your sprinting and then once you feel like sprinting being like i'm
pushing it my all out for X amount of yards. Like I would start short, like 10, 15 yards. Um, and then like progressive, maybe I wouldn't say that anyone needs more than like 20 to 30 yards. Um, just from like a general health perspective, like you moving your body fast and, and challenging your tissues to like contract, relax rapidly and, and stabilize everything within your body is, um,
would be a good practice, but not until you start to, say, get into some sort of baseball league again or something like that where you need to sprint again. I'm looking at Bob in the top here. I'm hoping that he's able to get down the line without blowing out there. Cleats, man.
Cleats are a whole different ballgame, man. You just don't hit doubles or triples, Joey.
90 feet to first base. Yep, station to station. That's the way to go.
Or four bags over the fence. That works too. Awesome. Thanks, Joe. That's great. Because there are some people whose goals, Joe, are to – to have, like, run a seven-minute mile for the first time. I know a couple people who are in this, that's their goal. So it's – but the most important thing I think you and Casey hit on, don't blow out your hamstring because ultimately game over.
That's going to set you back for sure.
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