Joe King

And we just got to like, you know, got to chat that night and hang.

And then the next night we played a second radio show.

And I was like, dude, you want to like, you want to come out and sing?

Like, let's, he's like, yeah, let's do, let's go.

Yeah.

And so then it became a collaboration, you know, and now we're friends.

And, um, so in that sense, it introduces you like it, art inspires art, creative inspires creative.

So like, yeah, I'm a fan.

It's a good question.

I don't think it's in my orbit when I'm writing new music.

I just have to write what's true.

And that's all I have control of.

I don't want to try to replicate or try to work.

I don't worry about, are they going to think this is the fray?

Or are they going to connect to this?

Because I've been there before and that crushes me.

Um, it just kills my creative or it just feels forced and it's like fake or something.

And so I just have to just surrender to what's true, you know, and is this something I love?

Is this something we love as a band?

And really at the end of the day, that's, that's all we did at the beginning.