Joe McCarthy

So I waited until people were like knocking on my DMs, like saying like, hey, do you have some sort of offer?

And then I'm like, okay, that must mean I have some sort of credibility in the space or some sort of result that people want to achieve.

So really, I just deconstructed what I did over the past eight, nine years to hit that and put it into an actual program step by step.

Amazing.

I know you're all about systems and tools.

What are some of the tools that you're using or that you recommend for people that are, again, looking to get this launch and scaling happening for their business?

That's a good question.

I mean, in the beginning, I feel like a lot of people overcomplicate it.

I mean, I did not have a ton of systems and like automations.

Like I use GHL, I go high level now and I hate it because it's such, it's just so overwhelming.

So I just have my team handle it for me at this point.

So I'm, I'm all about like simple skills.

Like you could have a 50K per month business with two employees and chat GPT.

I would say ChatGPT to answer your question.

Dive headfirst into that.

That software is insane.

You can create scripts.

That's a full-time copywriter, EA, executive assistant, really, if you want it.

So I use that on a daily.

I think really that's all you need.