Joe Pinsker
speaker
1,247 appearances
30 recordings
1 series
first heard Oct 2022
last heard Jan 2025
Joe Pinsker’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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I guess I'd almost put it as not pay becoming less important, but almost work in general.
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Over the past couple of years, we've seen the pandemic sort of reshuffle Americans' attitudes towards work to the point where
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It's less central to their lives and to their identities.
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And so it's not that people want less money in their bank account.
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It's that they are thinking about this tradeoff between, well, maybe if I went down a bit in money, I could go up in some other categories.
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And I think that's a tradeoff that more people lately have been willing to make.
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Yeah, a surprising number of people say that when they switch jobs and their pay goes down, their new job is actually better.
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That percentage is 40% of people.
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And if you look at the actual variables or characteristics of a job that make people like it more or less, when a new job has higher pay, that's actually less likely for people to say that it's better than when they're more interested in the work.
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Becoming more interested in the work is a better predictor of whether someone's going to like a new job.
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than if they have higher pay.
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One of the answers that just kept coming up over and over as I was talking to people about this is time.
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Money and time is a classic trade-off.
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And a lot of people were realizing that they were over-indexing on the money side of their life and under-indexing on time.
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And there was a way in which they could cut back some of their professional responsibilities, some of the stress of their jobs, some of being on call at all hours, and instead getting more free time, more time with their family, and really saying that they were happier because of it.
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A lot of it just had to do with a reduction in stress, but it also had a lot to do with an increase in meaning.
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A lot of times people are faced with tradeoffs between pay and fulfillment.
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And so another dimension that people were varying this on was increasing
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More fulfilling work, people switching from a job in corporate marketing to a job in teaching or somebody who was sort of at a tech startup and now does a whole mix of things like running his own nonprofit and teaching classes at a local university.
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So this is another way in which people are making this trade off.
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