Joe Pinsker

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1,247 appearances 30 recordings 1 series first heard Oct 2022 last heard Jan 2025

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And this is one of the things I was sort of most interested in as I was getting started on this. voice-verified
What are the actual practicalities of making a decision like this? voice-verified
How easily or not can people live with less when they make this choice? voice-verified
I spoke with a guy named Dustin Stapp in Arizona who had a sort of interesting little insight into how all of this worked. voice-verified
He basically said that he and his wife had to start making some different financial decisions. voice-verified
They were going to replace his 12-year-old car, and they didn't. voice-verified
They've started buying less when they go to Costco. voice-verified
They used to buy cashews, and now they don't. voice-verified
But also, in the bigger picture, he started putting less into his 401k. voice-verified
Another interesting little side note here is that for Dustin Stapp, when he was doing this, the pay cut prompted him to look at parts of his budget that he hadn't inspected in years. voice-verified
And so he went back to some recurring bills that he'd had for a long time. voice-verified
And by switching providers for car insurance, home insurance, his cell phones, he ended up saving $2,500 a year. voice-verified
So a pay cut is less money, but it's also a sort of a mindset shift in what's most important and also how you're going to evaluate your budget. voice-verified
Sometimes, yeah. voice-verified
I was talking with career coaches for this story, and they were saying that people have it in their heads that making a big career change is something that could come with a pay cut. voice-verified
Sometimes it can, they were saying, and sometimes it can't. voice-verified
But one career coach I was talking to was making the point that a lot of people default to saying that they're just going to go back to graduate school. voice-verified
in order to make a shift into a different industry or field. voice-verified
And he was saying that what he does is encourage clients to instead think about positions that are lower paid in their new industry. voice-verified
So maybe you take a pay cut now, but it means you don't have to pay tuition. voice-verified
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