Joe Pinsker

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1,247 appearances 30 recordings 1 series first heard Oct 2022 last heard Jan 2025

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Even once you start getting into household incomes at $100,000 a year or above, still 11% of Americans in that group say they don't have any stocks. voice-verified
There are a couple ways to think about this. voice-verified
One is a pretty direct pathway. voice-verified
through which the market affects people's lives. voice-verified
When the market goes down, people who hold stocks, they get less wealthy. voice-verified
And researchers have documented that they start spending less money, which sort of produces this chain of events where firms have lower demand, they pay workers less, or have workers work fewer hours, which then ends up translating to a drop in income in the aggregate for workers. voice-verified
So there is this direct line that you can draw. voice-verified
Less directly is a little hard to pin down, but there was an interesting study out of the UK that found that over periods of time of six months or a year, people reported lower levels of mental well-being the more stocks dropped during that period. voice-verified
And that was a finding that applied both to people who held stocks and to people who didn't. voice-verified
It is totally understandable that someone who has money in the market would be freaking out by this point of the year. voice-verified
But one financial advisor I spoke with was saying that even though many of his clients are coming to him with those sorts of emotions, his advice is usually to just stick with their long-term strategy and not sell. voice-verified
I think the bigger idea here is that when people are investing in the market, it's really useful to take a long-term time horizon and not think about just what's happening in this moment. voice-verified
This financial advisor was saying that the plans that he develops with his clients always account for the possibility of a downturn like the one we've seen this year. voice-verified
And so he's saying that even if people feel panic in this moment, it's useful to think on the scale of decades. voice-verified
Yeah, one man I interviewed was a high school teacher in North Carolina, and he started working around the time of the financial crisis. voice-verified
He saw, though, that in the years afterwards, as the economy started to improve and stocks started to go up again, voice-verified
He came to feel a bit frustrated that his pay wasn't increasing and it was staying flat. voice-verified
And he told me that this was something that kind of over time made him indifferent to whether the market was going up. voice-verified
And nowadays, as the market goes down, he's just as indifferent because his life doesn't really seem to feel that impacted by it. voice-verified
An interesting thing about how he's deployed his money is that instead of investing his excess cash, he's been really passionate about becoming debt-free, and he's been saving up for years to pay off the rest of his mortgage in full. voice-verified
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