Joe Popich

It wasn't a big social network.

It was just a couple of really good close friends.

He was a very open person.

He was non-judgmental to most people or most things and very open and accepting.

And so in saying that, he just developed a pretty carefree sort of nature towards life and lifestyle.

He was stable.

He was focused.

He was, I suppose, if you like, goal orientated and had some purpose in his life.

Yeah, at that time.

He prided himself on his grooming.

Yeah, he was very particular on his grooming and very fussy.

I always used to say to him, whatever you touch turns to gold.

He had some really expensive watches and he just gave them away.

I said, what happened to your watch?

He goes, I gave it away.

I don't need that sort of stuff anymore.

That means nothing to me.

It's not like an overnight thing, it was a gradual thing and I had no desire for anything materialistic in any way, shape or form, any materialism in any way, shape or form.

Started to graze hair long and all that sort of stuff and, you know, wear the happy pants as I used to call them and listen to the gurus on what were CDs back then, you know.

He went to a few of these alternate type seminars, if you want to call them that for a better word.