Joe Popich

And I remember going with him to one because I was living with him at the time.

And I thought, I'll go along and have a listen to see what happened.

someone's sort of trying to preach to him you know i remember parking there and walking in there it might have been i don't know 50 100 people there or something like that some so-called guru spreading his words up up in front of everybody i sat there under sufferance in all truthfulness but um yeah i don't remember much of it just remember thinking it was later codswallop

Yeah, it was along the lines of, you know, get rid of all your possessions, follow what I'm going to tell you and, you know, he's shining the light and follow his path, basically.

I think he was just looking for answers, really, you know, whether they were in the right place or the wrong place.

I don't know.

As we left, I said, you know, I gave you my opinion, what I thought of the whole thing.

I think he was just quite happy to follow something.

And unfortunately, what he followed led to his just a little bit of delusional state, really, at the end of the day, and became vulnerable with his life and his lifestyle and his thoughts.

He went to Nimbin for a while, spent some time there.

He spent some time in Darwin.

He liked Darwin.

Queensland, he travelled around there for a bit.

I thought, I'll go and say good day, you know, catch up, have a beer with him or something.

And I got there and he was living out the back, in the back yard in a tent.

It's a four-bedroom home, pardon the language, but I said, what the hell are you doing living in the bloomin' tent, you know, at the back there?

And at the time he goes, oh, you know, Simon likes his space.

And it was Simon this, Simon that, three bags full, Simon sort of thing.

We went inside and...

We're just sitting on the couch having a bit of a chat about something, you know.