Joe Rigney

and uh and it's remarkable um to think about like it is a sobering thing but as christians it ought to give us confidence it's what gives us a joy in the midst of the suffering when they when they plunder when they attack um there's a deep and settled joy because tim wallace doesn't run the universe thank god jake fry doesn't president trump doesn't for that matter like no human being runs the universe well one does um the god man jesus christ he runs the universe

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

It's Christ or chaos.

Those are the two options.

Those are the basic options in America today.

It's Christ or chaos.

You either get the decay, the disorder, the lawlessness, or we turn to Jesus, and he puts us everything back together.

He puts you back together individually.

You get forgiven for your sins, and you get...

sanctified you get made holy you get healed and restored and then he puts together our families the brokenness there he puts together our communities he puts together our nation um you know listening to your monologue at the front of the uh the hour it just it just struck me you're describing sort of the uh the balkanization of the united states yes and this mass demographic transformation um i think that's a subject that many evangelicals are uncomfortable with quite honestly having been an evangelical my whole life and it's it's uncomfortable for them to even think about or talk about

Um, and, but thinking about it, it's like, well, what's the hope then?

And I think the only hope is, well, everybody needs to turn to Jesus and then we can sort it out.

But if we don't turn to Jesus, we're just going to fight and we're going to devour each other because that's what human being apart from Christ, that's what human beings do.

We were envy, rivalry, pride, selfish ambition.

That's human nature.

in its sort of sinful state and so the only hope is we got to turn away from that and then okay now we've got millions of people from different ethnic groups and we've got all these things how are we going to sort it out well jesus has to be at the center of that or it won't happen it can't happen all you're going to get is more of this violence like that's the basic the basic hope

It's absolutely true.

It's absolutely true.

And it's the solution to the kind of mob violence that we see, right?