Joe Rigney

I'm across the country now, but watching my friends and former congregants be attacked in this way,

Simply, you know, because these activists are going to escalate from beyond what they've already been doing, as your previous guest elaborated on.

Well, the presenting cause is that one of the lay pastors at the church works for ICE.

He's a law enforcement officer, has been for 20-something years.

He's a good man.

He's a close friend of mine.

I'm not even going to say his name because I don't want any more harassment for him and his family.

But they had doxxed him, discovered who he was, where he went to church, and decided to make an example.

And so that was the presenting cause.

But I think there's also an element of, as you said, testing the boundaries.

How far can we go?

How far can we escalate these things?

in order to intimidate, silence people into doing what we want.

And so it's not enough now to harass law enforcement officers while they carry out their duties.

We're now gonna follow them to their homes.

We're gonna follow them to their churches.

We're gonna intimidate their friends.

We're gonna frighten their children.

until I guess they think the effect of that would be that the administration will cease trying to enforce its immigration laws.

Or maybe people will stop working for ICE.