Joe Rogan

Isn't that what the number is on the high side?

Yes, and it should have been done a long time ago.

But the question is, how effective is the removal process?

Do they have a quota that they have to meet?

Is this why they're being so aggressive about it?

So it says here, October 2025 Homeland Security Update referenced in one overview stated more than 2 million people were removed from the country in 2025.

But that total combined formal deportations, which were 527,000 with roughly 1.6 million people who voluntarily left or lost status rather than being physically deported.

Separate NPR report described about 600,000 deportations in 2025, along with about 1.6 million immigrants.

So similar off by, you know.

OK, let's see here.

Reflecting broader crackdown.

OK, here's a question.

What is the estimate of the amount of people who came in illegally between 2020 and 2024?

What would you guess?

If 20 million people got in in a year, that's crazy.

Certainly millions, but how many?

Okay.

It says, from 2020 to 2024, government data shows roughly 11 to 12 million encounters, in italics, with people crossing the U.S.

border illegally, mainly at the southwest border.

Because many people try to cross multiple times, the number of individuals is slightly lower than the number of encounters.