Joe Rogan

But then you have to factor in the people that they didn't encounter, right?

which were numerous, right?

So by saying the number of encounters is the accurate representation of the amount of people that got in illegally is kind of crazy.

That doesn't make any sense.

U.S.

Customs and Border Protection counts encounters, which includes apprehensions between ports of entry and people deemed inadmissible at ports of entry.

Okay.

So we don't know.

But that number was 10.8 million encounters nationwide between 2021 and 2024 alone.

That's just encounters.

I think it'd be safe to say that whatever the encounters are, the actual number is probably higher, even if you have people getting caught multiple times.

It's a lot of people, whatever it is.

Let's say it's 5 million.

Let's say it's 8 million.

That's way bigger than the city of Austin snuck in illegally in four years because they wanted them to be here.

And they didn't want to enforce it.

It is very liberal.

I don't believe so.

I don't think they do.

I mean there's certainly a lot of ICE protests.