Joe Spector

According to them now, there's always so there's two paths in Texas.

There's any state allows emerge has an emergency provision if it's a life or death situation.

And then in Texas, again, there's this Fifth Circuit decision that's currently so there's like there's sort of this competing situation in Texas where on the one hand,

The Fifth Circuit says telemedicine is allowed, but the state regulations still say that it's not allowed.

We're making good progress.

So we've changed the laws in Florida, Arizona, Ohio, in a number of states.

And this upcoming legislative session, we're lobbying in 12 different states.

But definitely there's a lot of states.

I'm sure your listeners live in a lot of those states.

And one of the things we did is we launched this website called SavePuppies.com.

And if you go to safepuppies.com- Well, I love your marketing.

That wasn't taken.

I know, right?

Yeah, it wasn't taken.

And so you can go there and send a letter to your local legislator.

That's the only way that things will change is at the grassroots level because we don't have the crazy budget that these trade groups have.

I think they're associated with it.

So I think, again, there's two things, what they'll say publicly versus what happens behind closed doors.

And I've read, I mean, it's like we live in two different worlds because what they'll say is, like, for example, one reason prices are going up is there's also massive vet shortages because the veterinary profession has one of the biggest dropout rates of anyone.

Oh, yeah.