Joe Wiesenthal
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1,572 appearances
15 recordings
2 series
first heard Sep 2025
last heard 26 Jun
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And, you know, what is the meaning of life going to be when we don't have jobs?
Because I'm so sick of those conversations.
They may be important at some point.
But, Grace, I'm sort of curious from your perception, like,
It does feel like the heads of the American AI labs have some degree of AI psychosis themselves.
Either they talk about all white-collar employment is going to disappear or that they're going to build a monster that, if done wrong, is going to be out of control and that they're not, you know, it'll escape the sandbox.
Is there the same sort of existential discourse in the Chinese AI community?
That's interesting.
In the US, obviously, companies announce that they're laying people off and they cite AI even frequently when there's no evidence that AI had anything to do with it.
So it's interesting they're not allowed to do it.
In defense of American AI labs, most of them lose a lot of money.
And yet they actually do spend, at least the big ones, spend quite a decent amount on so-called alignment research, safety research, making sure the AIs don't go rogue, etc.
How big of a part of the Chinese labs, how much do they spend on, I guess, what the American labs would put into the safety bucket?
Robotics is obviously an area where China is just straight up ahead of the United States, or at least according to all the videos on my Twitter and Instagram feed of humanoid robots and so forth.
How much does, you know, when we were all kids,
When we thought of, like, AI, I think we thought of robots, right?
We thought about the T-1000 or some version of it.
And now when we think of AI, most people think of chatbots, but that's just one aspect of AI.
For the advanced labs, whether we're talking about the DeepSeeks or the Minimaxes or GLM and so forth, like...
Are they actively working hand in hand with some of the unitries and advanced robotics companies to figure out how you can actually have the true AI robot of the future?
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