Joel Lorenzi

There's been a lot of words, a lot of controversial words at that.

And it's unlike anything I've ever covered.

I mean, my first month on the job,

was my first month on the job at OKC, I should say, was when the Giddy stuff happened.

And to me, that was pretty unprecedented.

And now, I mean, this is easily the...

the most bizarre thing I could cover for, for lack, for, for lack of a better word.

It's, it's, it's unlike anything I've ever covered.

Not me personally, no, but I can confirm that he's used language like fornicate and things about premarital sex with other reporters.

I had no firsthand accounts, for sure, dating back to when he was in Detroit.

And so we can talk about a timeline.

I imagine we're going to get into due diligence on the Bulls end.

I don't want to like accuse them of like being completely oblivious, but like some of the writing was on the wall.

I just think like obviously the two teams I spent the most time around are the Thunder and the Bulls.

And we know basketball wise they operate in completely different spaces.

But I know that something I've been thinking about is, you know, if Sam Presti.

got wind of, I mean, I'm sure you guys have seen this, maybe not, but we documented it in the story you referenced.

Ten days after he broke his leg in Detroit in January of 2025, he goes on a podcast and his testimony includes talking about, in his words, being abusive, which I don't think he details physical abuse, but he calls himself an abuser.

He mentions a pornography addiction.

He goes down this sort of road where