Joel Penny

They did it in what?

Was it January?

But they should have done.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Maybe.

I think it's hard to look at the situation from here and say that if Liverpool do go under a resurgence, it's with the same manager.

I agree with you there.

I think...

whatever decisions are being made around the reason for keeping him they better be bloody good ones yeah because it's hard for anyone to really see where they are at the moment whether or not they've already identified the person who they believe is the best person to take over and that person is not available as yet and they're willing to wait as they did with Jurgen

I don't know.

But outside of that, it's hard to really see a world where we're not in the same situation in October and everybody's saying, I told you so.

Maybe because of this specific reason.

Yeah, yeah.

By the way, though,

If they do bring in Araolo and his way of fixing it is to suddenly make them train seven days a week off the back of a World Cup.

Oh, there's going to be an adjustment period.

What do you think is going to happen?

They're all going to get injured.

So if that does happen, I think we have to be... Or at least... Because, I mean, when you went into Bournemouth,