John Allen

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2,188 appearances 4 recordings 3 series first heard Nov 2013 last heard 31 Aug

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Understood.
It w I you know what, truthfully, I had already had a little bit of a recognition that I didn't necessarily agree with what we did.
Sort of on the ground.
literally what we did on on deployment in Afghanistan and more broadly, like the US in general.
Um so by the time the the withdrawal happened, it was just sad for so many reasons and and not so much because of all you know
Of course, I feel bad for a lot of the people, the civilians that got caught in the the chaos of this in Afghanistan, but all the people on on the NATO side that were killed in the line of duty and people that were maimed along the way.
Um, so it was like sad, you know?
And I think there was there's no way to look at that withdrawal and feel like, oh, that we won, you know?
Yeah.
There was no win.
It was like we were there and there was a whole bunch of reasons we should or shouldn't have been there, but we were there for a long time.
A lot of horrible things happened and now we're out.
It was it and this is not even me trying to say we we didn't lose or something.
It's more like no one really even knows what was gained or lost.
It just was this tragic.
Just with
Twenty plus years of fighting.
I I found that I had already begun to wonder
Like there's so much and this is important and I I I say this in a in a
In order to be, for example, a Navy SEAL and to do a good job, if you think about what a Navy SEAL is, a Navy SEAL, and you could really make the same comparison to any special operations with any military.
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