John Barnes

I said, you're refusing to go on?

He goes, yeah.

I said, that's all right.

He just took his gear off and got in the bath.

So the Sunday, I said to the CEO, what are we going to say about Mark Vodouka refusing to play?

He said, no, no, no, don't say that.

It's a limited company.

All the news has to be good news.

So he goes, oh, don't say anything about that.

You know, we'll ride them a storm.

Probably going to win next week.

And then they sat me on the Monday.

Look at Isaac, what he did.

I'm sure he's a good lad.

But when you have certain characters... So it was always going to be difficult at Celtic.

But I love the Jamaican job.

And I feel that for me, or for any black manager, if you like, I think the only way they're going to be successful, you can't go to a big club, regardless of how good you are.

Because the perception of it is that if you're winning, everything is great.

But as soon as you lose, the perception as to whether you're good enough.

Because I'll tell you, the question, can a black...