John Day

Not just be an All Black, be one of the greatest All Blacks.

Another couple of World Cups.

I've been saying this to the kids, you know, catch a plane.

New Zealand will be here when you get back.

Yeah, we are.

No, look, I'm completely au fait with the argument.

I just think there has to be certain restrictions put on it.

Well, I don't.

Do you think that every player that's playing overseas should be available for selection?

We love it when it comes to round ball football.

We're not selecting the all-white side to go to the World Cup in the United States from players playing here, are we?

Well, there might be one or two, but most of them are actually playing their trade overseas.

Look, does that, though, does that argument...

Is that going to counter the player drain that's going overseas, Mark?

Is that going to stop it?

If every player knows that, hey, I still can be selected overseas, that just means that more and more are going to go overseas, doesn't it?

You can do what you can do.

Maybe Riccitelli's one of those guys that's just a super rugby player.

There are guys that that's their level, mate.

Or maybe they might make the New Zealand 15, but that's their level.