John Delony
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Sure.
So what is his, when he tries to paint you this rosy picture of nicotine, what is he trying to do?
What is he telling you?
Okay.
Okay.
So, well, I've got his story.
underneath your story, I heard you say you think it's gross, right?
And I've a couple of times in my life grabbed a Coke that I thought was a Coke and it was a dip can.
And so that's disgusting, right?
I've been there.
And seeing a bunch of like wadded up, dried up pouches laying around somebody's car or house is disgusting.
Like I get all that.
But I also heard underneath the, I think it's gross is you don't believe him.
Tell me about that.
Or it's a moral thing.
Like, I think what he's doing is wrong.
And I think he's making up a story about it to justify his actions.
And that's what you find gross.
Or let me say it really good.
Okay, tell me about that.