John Gafford

I love those meetings when people want to sit down with us and tell us what our, you know, we want to buy your company.

All right, cool.

Yeah, let's have a meeting.

Because it's just, for me, it's just a free valuation.

It's a free price.

All right.

So obviously you're scaling, it's about scaling yourself out of the business is what you're trying to do.

What is your, so, you know, one of the challenges that I think we've had over the years, and we've got some incredibly talented people right now, so I'm not taking anything away from the, we are, but I'm finding talent harder and harder to come by.

Great talent.

How do you consult people through that?

Well, I also find that most people that are surrounded by, you know, C&D players, bad employees, are that way from because they get complacent and they don't, it's like it's more headache to replace this person than it is to keep them.

And then I've had a lot of my friends that have companies that will make those complaints about the people that work for them.

And I'm like, just get rid of them.

I can't do that.

Well, how do you know?

Yeah.

The purpose driven business model is something that we subscribe to very much.

I mean, I read a Harvard study years ago where it said that 80% of people would rather do business with a company where they know where some of the money is coming.

So having those built in charitable arms into your business and being purpose driven and having those things

Definitely makes people, you know, you're not just going to buy another sports car.