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John Gafford

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16394 total appearances

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Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Building a Business That Outlasts You (David Grau Sr.)

They asked him, you know, who's the smartest person you've ever met?

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Building a Business That Outlasts You (David Grau Sr.)

And his response was, well, the roundabout way was, well, it's kind of changing because, you know, if you'd asked me that question five years ago, it's who's the most technically, you know, the most technically sound person at solving very complicated problems.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Building a Business That Outlasts You (David Grau Sr.)

You know, that level of just straight IQ is what we're looking for.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Building a Business That Outlasts You (David Grau Sr.)

But now...

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Building a Business That Outlasts You (David Grau Sr.)

if you're really, really smart, you're not that important anymore because I have a whole computer full of machines that are exactly, are probably smarter than you.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Building a Business That Outlasts You (David Grau Sr.)

So he says, now it's this intersection of EQ and IQ where human relations are important.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Building a Business That Outlasts You (David Grau Sr.)

So now to me, the smartest people are the people that can bridge that gap at the breast.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Building a Business That Outlasts You (David Grau Sr.)

So in your industry with a lot of these people that are doing professional services, is that a concern?

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Building a Business That Outlasts You (David Grau Sr.)

Is that something you guys are talking about a lot?

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Building a Business That Outlasts You (David Grau Sr.)

Okay.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Building a Business That Outlasts You (David Grau Sr.)

When somebody is, when you go to consult for somebody, that first hire that you think they need to make, what's the first hire that most people don't have that they need to make right away?

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Building a Business That Outlasts You (David Grau Sr.)

Bookkeeper.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Building a Business That Outlasts You (David Grau Sr.)

yeah oh yeah oh for sure no no for sure we've got yeah we're blessed to have yeah we're blessed to have some really good bookkeepers that help us and and they're full time with us because we just in this business you process so much money um you know checks coming in checks going out it's it's it's millions and millions and millions of dollars in commissions and it's um it's a lot we cut probably

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Building a Business That Outlasts You (David Grau Sr.)

6,000 checks a year for commissions.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Building a Business That Outlasts You (David Grau Sr.)

Well, let's talk about that.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Building a Business That Outlasts You (David Grau Sr.)

So as you grow, obviously, you're scaling operations, you're scaling locations, you're scaling this.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Building a Business That Outlasts You (David Grau Sr.)

When you sit down with people, obviously, the hiring of certain staff to replace yourself so you don't become the bottleneck is important.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Building a Business That Outlasts You (David Grau Sr.)

But you also do a scaling plan where you're saying, here's this benchmark.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Building a Business That Outlasts You (David Grau Sr.)

And then when this happens, we're executing this.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Building a Business That Outlasts You (David Grau Sr.)

And when this happens, we're executing that.