John Gibbons

So you're in that position where you're having to pay it.

It's harder to move him on if he is...

having problems if he's not quite making the impact that that that he wants you know so you're in that situation so so some of these players do get stuck and i think that's where you know all top clubs need to be a little bit careful really you know manchester united found that as well with players just going do you know what now i'll stay here yep and i i'm i'm fine bang into franco's boys getting stuck with a few lads on high wages that they can't get rid of till the end of the contract though

How's he done out there?

Quite well, yeah.

Yeah, pretty well if he's been linked with us.

Maybe we'll go back.

Maybe we'll go back in and Godman can talk about him again.

I'm sure he'll love that.

Now, what I would say is Chelsea are good sellers.

They do manage to sell well and so it wouldn't surprise me if they do manage to get a good fee for them.

They've got decent fees already this summer and tend to do it every year.

Sometimes they'll get £20 million for someone who's not even played for them, yet they've just been out at one of the feeder clubs and then moved on.

And so they're

they are good at generating the money from players whether they'll get 75 million for gusto even in an inflated market i really doubt it but i wouldn't surprise me you know if they if they get something similar to what they've just paid for this sort of lad and if they feel like that's an upgrade then then you've done well

And so I've always said, he looked alright when he played against Liverpool.

What's happened here?

And so I think defensively, you seem to be either playing every game or not seen for three months.

And he's been in a little bit of playing recently.

Always seemed to do alright.