John Gotti Jr
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard Dec 2024
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He showed up in Manhattan all the time. I bought my father a house in the Poconos, and I bought him that house for a reason. I said, Dad, I've got this house now. He bought it from a friend of ours named Louis Dudo. He bought the house. He said, Dad, go stay there. And if anybody needs to see you, we'll bring them to see you, okay? He said, look and say, that's not who I am, John.
That's not who I am. He was out five days a week. And even when he wasn't out, he was out. Because he was out in the city five days a week and hitting the boroughs five days a week being seen and touched. Shouldn't have. Shouldn't have. Nobody else did that. But he had everybody see him and touch him and know he was real. He did that five days a week.
And then on the sixth day, and even the seventh day, Sunday, which belongs to us, okay, should belong to his family. After dinner, what did he do? He drove to the Bergen Hunting Fish Club and played poker.
and everybody knew to find him there, another 20 guys would come in on Sunday night and mill around the table and hang out and watch him play cards and go in the back and eat a veal cutlet sandwich. He was always available. The only time he wasn't available was Saturday night. He was with my mother, dinner in a restaurant or home, and Sunday afternoon, dinner at home.
Other than that, he was available. In essence, seven days a week. Was he a good poker player? He's a good card player. His preference wasn't poker. His preference was continental. He loved continental. You were saying that.
Yeah, yeah.
I adopted that with my father. That was his preference. And he used to play a high stake game, him and a lot of the old timers.
My father paid all his debts. And I used to see him. I used to watch him gamble and play cards. And he used to play a high stake game. Petey Castellano and Jimmy Brown Fiella. These guys had money. These were money guys. And he would put up a couple of guys in the game, like Jackie. Jackie the actor didn't have much money. He was a hardworking grinder.
My father would tell him, Jackie, get in the game. And he'd put him up. And at the end, like if my father won, he would tell Jackie, he'd say, how'd you do? And Jackie would always overestimate his loss. Instead of saying, I lost $10,000, he'd say, I lost $15,000. He'd say, you cocksucker. The guy ain't fucking paying attention. He lost $12,000. And he'd give it right back to him.
And he'd throw it right back to him. He'd give it back to him. He just wanted the thrill. Because maybe when he was younger, you know, it was that he had to be in that hunt. He had to be in that hunt. And sure, winning that money was something special. But as he got older, let's go post-85, 86, 87, he had plenty of money. He wasn't gambling for the money anymore. It was just for the thrill.
He needed to be in it. And when he won, he just... How'd you do, Jack? Well, he bet numbers. I'll give you an interesting story, a gambling story. Joe Messina, a guy named Joe Messina. He was accused of being the shot caller for the Banano Group. They were partners in a crap game. They had a crap game together, okay? And they went and my father's job was, you know, he used to go there.
They were partners and my father used to like to get into the game. Joe really didn't gamble. Joe was a money guy. And my father gets in the game and he winds up winning $90,000 in their own game. He wins $90,000, okay? And then what he does is afterwards, because, you know, Joe was pretty tight. So my father takes $10,000 off of it. Joe gets $40,000. He gets $40,000. And he gets $10,000.
And he gives us all the numbers. He calls all the numbers guys and the tips. He gives out tips and gives the number guys action. Okay? Gives them all action. And Joe's looking at him like, it's our money. And he put $10,000 back in the game. Okay? Back in the room. They hit the number the next day, my brother Frankie Boy's birthday, 015. They hit it for $375,000. Yeah. Yeah. True story.
This is in 1983. It's a lot of money. A lot of money, okay? This is before he became John Gotti. This is a lot of money. Now, Joe's a smart guy. Joe took his end and he bought some modular homes in the old side of Howard Beach. John Gotti got down on the Jets and anybody else. He threw it right back into the action, right back into the game. That's the kind of guy he was.
That's the kind of guy he was. He was a guy that you had to look at him because money meant very little to him. It should have meant a lot more because it gives more stability to your family when you know you're not going to be there. But to him, it didn't matter much.
Yeah, I was born in Brooklyn. Born in Brooklyn, from South Brooklyn, moved to Canarsie at five years old, 10 years old, Howard Beach. Howard Beach, out to Long Island I moved.
Much safer, well, wait, wait. From what perspective are we talking about? Meaning, was it safer to be a street guy back then? No, no. Is it safer to be a street guy today? Yeah, I think so. You have to understand in both aspects of that, okay?
It's a tricky question, but both aspects of it, because then if you just ran afoul or you did something wrong or someone thought you did something wrong, you ended up with two in your hat and in a dumpster. Today, that doesn't happen anymore. It just doesn't happen anymore. It's a kinder, gentler street, okay, in that respect. And also now on the other side of that as well, back then,
There were 400 FBI agents that were employed against the streetlight. In the tri-state area, there were 400 FBI agents. Today, there's less than 40.
I don't know. I don't give them the budget. I don't approve the budget. There's less than 40, I guess, because the technological advances. that they can track you through computers. I guess they have maybe a higher count of informants in that life, maybe. Maybe the information moves differently.
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