John Gotti Jr
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615 appearances
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard Dec 2024
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But right before he comes into the room, two FBI agents dip into the room. And I'm looking at them, and they're dressed in suits, comes over, and they identify themselves. They're from the Springfield Mass Office, and they hold their hand out. I shake their hands. I shake their hands. And he says, Mr. Gotti, we're going to be sitting in on the visit between you and your father.
And I says, I don't think so. And he says, well, I said, look, I don't have a problem with you sitting in and listening. My father won't sit in a room with you people. I'm just telling you ahead of time. I'm a gentleman in this respect, but he's not going to be in this respect. I'm just telling you right now. He says, well, we're going to have to.
And all of a sudden, like on cue, now I hear the chains coming and he comes in. And he sees me and he smiles. He's all shackled up. And I'm heartbroken. I'm crushed. I see him now. It's the first time I saw him. I have his face is missing and, you know, I'm crushed. And I'm looking at him. I'm just staring at him. And his belly chained and taking the chains off his feet.
And he looks over and he goes, he gives me a smile and he goes, who are these two gentlemen? And the fellow walks over, how are you doing? I'm special agent such and such. My father says, pull your hand back. He says, what do you want? He says, we're going to sit in. Take me out of here. Take me out of here. He's backing out. He says, John, it's great seeing you.
These men can never sit in the room with me. He backs out. And then the captain jumps up and says, no, no, no, no, no. We have an order. We have a court order. Courts, federal judge Barrington Parker, nowhere in this order does it say you're to be in this room. You have to leave. This visit has to proceed. It's a 90-minute visit. It's allowed, authorized by a federal judge. You have to leave.
And they left. And he wouldn't even sit in the room. He wouldn't even sit in the room with these individuals. He wouldn't sit in the room. And at that visit, that's when I had the opportunity to hug him. So at that moment, they left the room. They unchained my father. A lieutenant stood in the room with the tripod for the camera because he had to operate the camera.
And I was allowed to walk around the table, and I was allowed to give him one hug, which I didn't want to let go. And then I went to my side of the table, and I had to sit, and we had our visit. We had our 90-minute visit, which was memorialized by that tape, which the government refused to acknowledge that it even existed. until I was about to be granted a hearing.
And then they started turning over evidence that I knew they had, stuff that they had. What made that visit so important was the fact that he opens the conversation, some niceties, and I'm telling him, you know, he's talking about a surgery, and then you look great, John, and I'm saying that, but why this, why that? And you could see I'm a bit emotional.
and then he goes on to tell me about how he feels a man should comport himself and so on. Then he goes and says, well, Joseph says John wants closure. Now, Joseph was an attorney who came to see my father and basically gave my father my message. Now, if I tell you I want closure, Pat, what would you take that to mean?
Would you take it to mean that I want closure, I want to move on with my life, I want to do something different with my life?
What you thought I was, what you thought it was, that reality is no more a reality. So I wanted to move on. And it was my way of telling my father, if I win my case, I'm going home. I want to be a civilian. If I lose my case, I'll do my 20 some odd years and I'm going home to be a civilian. That's it. You are my cause. You are my cause. Maybe that was your cause, but you are my cause, okay?
You're dying. I hope and pray you live. I hope you pray and live 20, 30 more years. And if that's the case, you know what? I would have been in that world still today. I'd be in that life today.
I'm thinking, and the message that was brought to him was of such.
It was sent. It was sent to him.
Was he disappointed? A bit. But he opens the conversation by saying, Joseph said John wants closure. And he said, that word is not in my son's vocabulary. He goes on to talk about it. And then he's telling me. And then we're having our conversation. And we communicate in a way we know how to communicate, my father and I. We can feed off each other. Okay?
And, you know, at that point, he's letting me know his feelings. And I'm sort of letting him know my feelings. I tell him about my son, John Gotti. And I'm telling him about his other grandson, John Gotti. And I'm saying, what's your hope and expectations for them? This is me now. And I'm expendable. But are they expendable? Are your grandkids expendable? So when do we stop this?
At what point do you think, you're my cause. If you're going to be here forever, then I'm here with you. I'm with you. I said I'd follow you off a cliff, and I'm going to die with you, okay? But if you're dying, I see it. You're telling him this. I'm not.
He understands where I'm going with this, and my body language is telling him, and he's like, you know, he's opening up his jumpsuit, and he's going like this, and I'm looking. And I remember when they said it first gave him 120 days to live. He had stage four of squamous head and neck cancer, very aggressively moving. And they gave him 120 days to live. He ultimately lived almost four years.
But we knew what they were going to do. We knew how the cancer materialized. We knew how it matured. We know how it got there. The government did it. They did it. He had infections in his mouth from his implants. They took away his commissary where he was able to drink bottled water. They took it away from him.
And they made him drink and brush his teeth in water from Marion, Illinois, which you can pull up. Amnesty International had done a report on Crab Orchard Lake. The prison was built on this Crab Orchard Lake, on this old abandoned coal mines.
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