John Gotti Jr

He knew all the particulars. In fact, I was using Michael to drive them in. Drive them into the city. I trusted Michael. I said, Michael, they got my word, safe passage. I made him bring them up to my Pocono house. This way they felt comfortable. We hunted together. They were suspicious that maybe I was looking to kill them. We met. We spoke. I says, look, nobody's going to harm you guys.

He knew all the particulars. In fact, I was using Michael to drive them in. Drive them into the city. I trusted Michael. I said, Michael, they got my word, safe passage. I made him bring them up to my Pocono house. This way they felt comfortable. We hunted together. They were suspicious that maybe I was looking to kill them. We met. We spoke. I says, look, nobody's going to harm you guys.

Nobody's going to harm you.

Nobody's going to harm you.

This is... Mikey Scars was close to me and Michael bringing them in. And I have assured all of Sammy's crew, nobody's going to harm you guys, okay? But... I'm keeping you guys, I'm helping you. I'm here. I'm in your corner. John, unless John, that order comes from John and it never will come from John, you guys are safe. But you have to cooperate here with us.

This is... Mikey Scars was close to me and Michael bringing them in. And I have assured all of Sammy's crew, nobody's going to harm you guys, okay? But... I'm keeping you guys, I'm helping you. I'm here. I'm in your corner. John, unless John, that order comes from John and it never will come from John, you guys are safe. But you have to cooperate here with us.

You have to go in and talk to the lawyers. You have to tell us everything about Sammy Gravano. John Gotti met Sammy Gravano for the first time in 1977 when he came out of prison. He met him for the first time. And he only met him through a couple of nightclubs coming and going, okay? He didn't really know Sammy well enough. He began to know him later on in life.

You have to go in and talk to the lawyers. You have to tell us everything about Sammy Gravano. John Gotti met Sammy Gravano for the first time in 1977 when he came out of prison. He met him for the first time. And he only met him through a couple of nightclubs coming and going, okay? He didn't really know Sammy well enough. He began to know him later on in life.

So we needed to get all these facts put together. So I established what I call the Eddie Garofalo file, okay? Which was his brother-in-law. Eddie Garofalo was his brother-in-law. His older brother-in-law. And he opened up. And I have all that, all the interview we've done. He opened up. We have it all typed up. And he talks about the rift between Sammy Gravano and Louie Melito.

So we needed to get all these facts put together. So I established what I call the Eddie Garofalo file, okay? Which was his brother-in-law. Eddie Garofalo was his brother-in-law. His older brother-in-law. And he opened up. And I have all that, all the interview we've done. He opened up. We have it all typed up. And he talks about the rift between Sammy Gravano and Louie Melito.

And the rift happened because Louie Melito, who was a tough guy, a stand-up guy and a real tough guy in his own right, and Sammy had a problem. Apparently he had a problem, what he thought, with some bikers. They roughed him up or whatever. He went and got Louie and came back. And both had guns on them. Sammy says, that's one of them right there. They rolled up on the kid.

And the rift happened because Louie Melito, who was a tough guy, a stand-up guy and a real tough guy in his own right, and Sammy had a problem. Apparently he had a problem, what he thought, with some bikers. They roughed him up or whatever. He went and got Louie and came back. And both had guns on them. Sammy says, that's one of them right there. They rolled up on the kid.

Sammy rolled down the window and shot the kid in the head. He always said that Louie Melito did it. Louie Melito never forgave him for putting him in that position. The kid went down as a John Doe at first. Until at some point later on, they came to a conclusion who this kid was. And even when the FBI...

Sammy rolled down the window and shot the kid in the head. He always said that Louie Melito did it. Louie Melito never forgave him for putting him in that position. The kid went down as a John Doe at first. Until at some point later on, they came to a conclusion who this kid was. And even when the FBI...

was issuing the reports of all his murders, that kid was down as John Doe, which is an insult to his family. Alan Kaiser was down as John Doe, which is an insult to his family. But Louie Melito never let Sammy live that down, that he was put in that position and an innocent 16-year-old kid was shot in the head and killed. He never let him live that down. And Sammy, at some point, conspired.

was issuing the reports of all his murders, that kid was down as John Doe, which is an insult to his family. Alan Kaiser was down as John Doe, which is an insult to his family. But Louie Melito never let Sammy live that down, that he was put in that position and an innocent 16-year-old kid was shot in the head and killed. He never let him live that down. And Sammy, at some point, conspired.

Because Louis would slap Sammy. Louis was a tough guy, and Sammy wasn't. And at some point, it came to a point, and Sammy went to the chief and basically made up a story that this guy was loyal to Paul or whatever. It was a cockamamie story. It's probably above my pay grade. But ultimately, in the end, he conspired and got Louis Melito killed. This is what he does.

Because Louis would slap Sammy. Louis was a tough guy, and Sammy wasn't. And at some point, it came to a point, and Sammy went to the chief and basically made up a story that this guy was loyal to Paul or whatever. It was a cockamamie story. It's probably above my pay grade. But ultimately, in the end, he conspired and got Louis Melito killed. This is what he does.

But you take that, for example, and you take his brother-in-law, ex-brother-in-law, Nick Scabetta. He talks about how Paul authorized him to kill Nick Scabetta. If Paul knew who Nick Scabetta was... Excuse my crassness. Am I allowed to curse? Sure. Whatever's not nailed down in this room, you can shove up my ass. How's that sound? If Paul had any idea who a guy named Nick Scabetta was...

But you take that, for example, and you take his brother-in-law, ex-brother-in-law, Nick Scabetta. He talks about how Paul authorized him to kill Nick Scabetta. If Paul knew who Nick Scabetta was... Excuse my crassness. Am I allowed to curse? Sure. Whatever's not nailed down in this room, you can shove up my ass. How's that sound? If Paul had any idea who a guy named Nick Scabetta was...