John Gotti Jr
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard Dec 2024
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Show me a person that went to jail because of anything I've ever done in my life or said in my life. Show me, show me. The guy who spent well over $10 million fighting the United States government. The guy who destroyed all their cooperators. Over a dozen men are home right now because of me, because I destroyed these cooperators and they never used these cooperators ever again, ever.
Including the one you mentioned, John A. Light. I was the last case. He gave a death penalty charge to a guy named Johnny Burke. Guess what? They used him to indict John Burke on a death penalty case, but never used John Ailey to testify. I've never heard of that before in my life. That is unusual. Why? I retired him. I retired him. I caught them in more wrongdoing.
I caught the case agent in more wrongdoing, more misconduct. I pleaded over and over and over again for hearings on this issue. I could give you dates that I've asked for these hearings. Okay? Wrote letters. Attorney General Ashcroft. We can go on and on and on. I mean, you're talking about multiple letters to multiple different players and individuals.
And here, they even had an article leaked to the paper that this was a scheme that I created. It called the Junior's Mob Exists Scheme. They even talked about it.
Absolutely not. Absolutely not. What would he have said? My father would have probably disowned me for helloing them. For sitting in a room with them? Absolutely not. But I was a civilian. Again, I wasn't a hypocrite. I wasn't a hypocrite.
99, the tape you and I discussed, the meeting that you and I discussed.
The last time I ever saw my father. First time I've touched him in years. Last time I've ever seen my father. February 5th. You saw him say, when I walked in the door, He walks in and says, Joseph said John wants closure. What do you think that meant? We used it at trial. The jurors knew what it meant. I asked my father to be put on a shelf for life. I wanted to be a civilian.
And being a civilian entitled me to fight like a civilian.
No, I didn't. And my plan was to go to trial. My plan was to help myself and help my co-defendants and beat the case. Okay, it was an unorthodox tactic that I employed. But remember, I've involved a lot of people. There was a lot of communication, not according to me, according to their cooperators. There was a lot of communication, a lot of knowledge what was going on here.
Okay, different perspectives here. But one thing's for sure, one thing's for sure, Joe Messina at that time did not flip. He was probably one of the most powerful guys in New York at that moment. And I still showed respect and felt obligated. Okay? I showed respect and felt obligated. I sent word in to Joe.
Joe flipped a short time later, but Joe knew the tactic that I was going to employ at some point in the case. He knew it. I think Joe, if I'm not mistaken, I think he flipped somewhere Right around that time. But he knew my plan. Eight, nine months earlier, he knew exactly what I wanted to do. It was told to Joe. He knew what I wanted to do. He had reservations about it.
And a man of his authority. I showed that respect. I believe to be my elders, that in respect to my father's way of life, that even as a civilian, even from my civilian standpoint, my position in life, that I still gave them the respect to let them know what I'm doing. And I didn't want it to be misconceived.
It absolutely is. It's probably one of the most important things to me. Why is that? Because... When you went through what I went through, I spent easily, we showed the judge, we turned all, we brought him, the fourth trial was a tax and parole violation case, okay? And I brought in and put a shoe box.
When they were asking me about turning over records and I said, your honor, they're gonna use my records against me. Why should I turn them over? And then I bought a shoe box, a boot box actually like this. I dumped it over on the table. It was neatly stacked checks totaling over $10 million. It would have cost me to defend myself. Does a rat spend $10 million fighting fucking multiple trials?
Does a rat put his house in foreclosure? I came home to my house in foreclosure. I lost every business I had. My businesses were gone. My house that I live in right now was in foreclosure. I wrote the book, sold the rights to the movie to get that house out of foreclosure. Is that what a rat does? Show me one. Show me one rat.
Show me one rat that went for the money as I went defending the government. Millions of dollars in legal defenses, subpoenaing their cooperators out of the program in hiding. hiring private investigators to do what I did. Show me one. It's important to share something with you because here we have, I mean, forget about the misconduct, things that had taken place with us.
I mean, it was off the charts, completely off the charts. And let me show you how easy it is also to confuse and doctor up documents, especially these 302s. It's been done multiple times. And you can see how wrong they got it, right? You're sitting here, you're a civilian, correct? Correct. Very educated, I believe. Very articulate individual. I'm impressed by you. I'm impressed by what you built.
So I know appealing to someone like you, you'd be the perfect guy to analyze every single thing that I'm saying right now. You're the perfect guy. I couldn't find a better forum. I tried to do it with 60 Minutes. They didn't know how to do it. That was when I first came home from prison in 2010. But this was really like nobody even believed any of this garbage.
But as we said earlier, seven years you've been trying to get me here. You tried to get me here for seven years. I said, I want to have a conversation with Pat. I want to have a conversation with him. I do want to have this conversation. It took seven years to get us here, and here we are. And I knew you would do your homework, because I want to talk about all of these things.
And I want you to tell me, be the devil's advocate and say, this is where I think it's wrong or right or whatever have you. And I always would culminate by saying this. Show me an individual. You asked me a great question. Would your father approve? No. He wouldn't even shake their hand that day on the visit.
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