John Gotti Jr

that there was a persona there. He was sort of identified as the prince of the Velvet Mafia. And you know what the Velvet Mafia was? Velvet Mafia was the underground of New York, the gay community, that these guys had a lot of powerful, influential people were there, and Roy knew everything. Roy knew all the bodies were buried. He knew who was who and what was what, okay?

that there was a persona there. He was sort of identified as the prince of the Velvet Mafia. And you know what the Velvet Mafia was? Velvet Mafia was the underground of New York, the gay community, that these guys had a lot of powerful, influential people were there, and Roy knew everything. Roy knew all the bodies were buried. He knew who was who and what was what, okay?

He knew what high-ranking individuals, what judges, what... Everybody played a different role. The Velvet Mafia. That's what we used to call them back in the day.

He knew what high-ranking individuals, what judges, what... Everybody played a different role. The Velvet Mafia. That's what we used to call them back in the day.

I've never even seen this before.

I've never even seen this before.

Today, you and I, society, we accept everything. We accept if you're a good person, you're a good person, whatever your choices are. Then they did not. Then in the 50s, 60s, 70s, they discriminated against people. It could not happen. So it was like almost a sin to be gay back then because society was harsh on that. Religion was harsh on that.

Today, you and I, society, we accept everything. We accept if you're a good person, you're a good person, whatever your choices are. Then they did not. Then in the 50s, 60s, 70s, they discriminated against people. It could not happen. So it was like almost a sin to be gay back then because society was harsh on that. Religion was harsh on that.

Well, Roy was that, and he was the guy who knew all the secrets and all the answers. And understanding also, this is even before that point of the Velvet Mafia in the 60s into the 70s. Remember, he was a powerful attorney in his own right. won a string of cases. McCarthy saw him and wanted this kid. He wanted this young guy, this brash young gentleman. He wanted him next to him.

Well, Roy was that, and he was the guy who knew all the secrets and all the answers. And understanding also, this is even before that point of the Velvet Mafia in the 60s into the 70s. Remember, he was a powerful attorney in his own right. won a string of cases. McCarthy saw him and wanted this kid. He wanted this young guy, this brash young gentleman. He wanted him next to him.

Guide him on the law. And then they began to go through the blacklisting of Hollywood and the communism trials and all that other stuff. And that was the McCarthyism, the era of McCarthyism. That was the beginning of it. His power with the Senate. It only grew, and then it evolved into what you see, the Velvet Mafia. Wow.

Guide him on the law. And then they began to go through the blacklisting of Hollywood and the communism trials and all that other stuff. And that was the McCarthyism, the era of McCarthyism. That was the beginning of it. His power with the Senate. It only grew, and then it evolved into what you see, the Velvet Mafia. Wow.

Roy?

Roy?

I've never heard that, no.

I've never heard that, no.

Yeah, because you think about having... And by the way... I would think the government, if anybody, when you say somebody would want to kill him, I would probably say, if you see what's going on today now, like with the Speed Diddy trial and Jeffrey Epstein, when he hung himself, okay?

Yeah, because you think about having... And by the way... I would think the government, if anybody, when you say somebody would want to kill him, I would probably say, if you see what's going on today now, like with the Speed Diddy trial and Jeffrey Epstein, when he hung himself, okay?

Yeah, well, I was in that unit. It's pretty tough that all the cameras failed. But anyway, that being said, when you see today, when people have that kind of information... When they possess that wealth of information on other powerful individuals, sometimes you outlive your useful purpose and you become expendable.

Yeah, well, I was in that unit. It's pretty tough that all the cameras failed. But anyway, that being said, when you see today, when people have that kind of information... When they possess that wealth of information on other powerful individuals, sometimes you outlive your useful purpose and you become expendable.