John Griffin

Yeah, one of the biggest investment areas for a company like Ericsson is to make our systems highly secure and to try to avoid issues like that where you can.

So we invest quite a lot of money in security right now to at least do what we can to prevent these type of outages from happening.

Prevention.

Being 100% secure is a utopia that we would all like to get to.

Full redundancy?

Yeah, we have redundancy in the systems, but also you need to make sure that the hackers can't get in in the first place.

That is correct.

Yeah, we're full square behind Draghi Report.

We're one of the biggest European investors in Ireland.

We also are pushing very hard for some of the deregulation.

that the Draghi report has asked the European Union to actually do.

And we've seen some of that, but not enough happening yet.

But Europe needs to be more competitive on a global scale.

And the Draghi report tries to push Europe to be more competitive.

I don't know about that.

We have global European champions today.

We're one of them.

And I'd like us to be supported by the European Union so that we can operate very effectively on a global scale.

I think that's a question for other people to answer.

I said, you need to listen to Gigi. She's speaking an important truth. And, you know, we have talked about as parents how we try and, you know, meet our children where they are. And this was a good example. And Amy went back in there and met her where she was. And it was very changing.