What is Oprah's latest book club pick and why was it chosen?
Well, that's how most of us learned what PTSD was. So I remember when I opened my school in South Africa and, you know, the girls were going through all this, what I thought was like, what is happening? Dr. Bruce Perry said to me, I think your girls are suffering from PTSD. And I said the same thing. Well, they haven't been to war. And he goes, poverty is war. Trauma is war.
And so that's the first time I realized it around 2006, 2007. Yeah.
Well, I think that's one of the things I've really come to realize, too, even in the writing of this, that trauma is not just what happened to me, but there are parts of us. in all of us that are broken, that we go in, if we can go in and just tell them and acknowledge them.
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Welcome back to Oprah's Book Club presented by Starbucks. I'm so glad you're here with us. I'm with author and investor Amy Griffin, whose book The Tell is my 112th selection. Amy is talking about her use of psychedelic therapy and how it helped her uncover a traumatic experience from her childhood.
A reminder, this conversation contains discussions about sexual abuse and may be challenging to hear. This is not a subject for young children. Since we'll be discussing psychedelics, I want you to also know this conversation is not intended to offer any kind of medical advice.
Well, the reason why I think the tell is going to have such a profound effect on so many people is because when people live a life like you live, a very elevated, highly exposed to everything possible in the world life, growing up the way you did in Amarillo, riding around with your banana seat bicycle and going to the Tootin' Totem,
and having everything look and seem to be perfect, except you didn't win Homecoming Queen. I did not. It's hard to believe that traumatic things happen to you because people think when you have money that you can't have sadness or trauma or difficulties or challenges. So what happened during your first session with the therapist? And what psychedelic did you use?
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