John Healey

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Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Treasury was in denial: John Healey on why he resigned as defence secretary · 6 Jul 2026 podcast

That we have to recognise that European security is now at stake.

I suppose what I'm asking

Well, NATO's quite clear that by twenty thirty we should expect and could face Russia trying to take some element of NATO country territory.

In fact, Putin could test Article five sooner than that, by miscalculation or mistake.

Article five to remind people is where you pledge that an attack on one is an attack on all.

So the Article five is exactly that.

We've had two Article four calls in the last year alone.

That's where

there is a consultation when countries feel that they are under attack.

And what I mean about the rising Russian aggression, the nature of the activity and attacks that we face are not necessarily the conventional um battlefields of the Second World War.

But we've seen increasing Russian activity overthreatening our undersea cables.

and data links and pipelines.

I've exposed the level of cyber attacks, ninety thousand against different defense systems in the last year alone, tracked and linked to states.

We've seen sabotage, we've seen

Revelations and confirmation of arson attacks and attacks against Kiyostama.

That's our intelligence assessment, linking them to Russia through proxies.

So are we already at war?

Well just a week.

We are already on a threat.

And I as Defense Secretary faced uh personal threat, fortunately not the attack as c as Keir uh did.

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