John Healey

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Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Treasury was in denial: John Healey on why he resigned as defence secretary · 6 Jul 2026 podcast

But that is a feature of modern life.

would do.

So as we look forward to the the annual NATO summit in Ankara this week, the US is still committed to NATO.

President Trump is still committed to Article five.

That is essential.

But the US is stepping up its challenge to us to, as they put it, share more of the burden, to raise our commitment to defence spending as

non US nations within NATO more quickly and to develop some of the capabilities that we've relied on the US to provide for too long as it looks to redeploy and refocus its priorities elsewhere.

I did.

Uh directly, one to one.

And one of the benefits of being close allies is you can tell your closest ally the hardest truths.

And he

made that first speech to NATO defense ministers and he said that the uh primary focus and priority for America would no longer be NATO.

So what he also said is, look, we challenge and he they're quite right to do so, other nations in NATO, to step up but he was very clear that doesn't mean US stepping away.

They didn't like it.

Well, certainly they

They they condemned all of the NATO nations for not giving them full throat.

These were conversations that both Kirstama and I had.

would not get dragged into the wider war.

Uh what the US also recognized was that weeks ahead of the first attacks uh on Iran, I'd ensured that we had moved extra planes, uh air defense systems, uh radar systems, reinforcements into the Middle East so that we could protect our bases, help protect American bases,

Well I think I think the thing to remember is that w within thirty six hours of those first attacks on Iran, we had given permission for the use of UK bases for attacks that were about defending and taking out ballistic missile sites and supply chains.

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