John Heilman

It's so crazy.

I was talking about this a little bit with Nicole and Mark Elias yesterday and how these guys have been so incompetent at the

you know, active measures, retribution, you know, everybody's walking free.

They've won some settlements, I guess, with the media companies, but, but overall, you know, they've lost, you know, time again in court.

They've not successfully gone after any of their foes.

Now they've gone after regular people, obviously, you know, immigrants and, you know, folks that are in communities and, and stuff of that nature, but none of these high profile people have suffered at all.

And yet still, uh,

They've succeeded in the chilling effect.

There remains cowardice across the corporate CEO class and Hollywood very acutely, I would say.

And that's why it's so shocking whenever you see somebody step up.

Who was it?

The one oil CEO in the meeting who was like, yeah, actually, this Venezuela thing isn't good for us.

It was like, oh, man.

How refreshing.

A rich person in a free country was able to just say what is true about the president's bad policies.

This isn't North Korea after all.

But the chilling effect side, they've still been effective at.

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