John Heilman

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One more retribution thing I want to get your take on, which is the FCC now going after Disney.

This kind of relates to our correspondence dinner.

In addition to just the dinner being unbearable at any time, I felt like the idea that journalists would go to when Trump is having a direct assault on many of their outlets in particular—

What a good idea.

So anyway, the day after the FCC is going after Disney and the licenses of some ABC stations based on, you know, I don't know, violations of DEI or woke or something.

Yeah.

who knows it's uh yep vice being kissed from buzz lightyear or something that has been their outrage you know we talked about this probably i think both the last times you were on which is the mood in the media as you know trump continues to go after them like obviously at the very beginning of the administration everybody was buckling i think after the kimmel situation we got a little bit of backbone starting to pop up but i'm just going

Kind of wondering what you think the environment's like right now at media companies and whether there's some more...

gumption building up or whether everybody's still pretty scared of the administration's retribution campaign.