John Irwin

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The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe · 492: Jon Erwin—Young Washington · 30 Jun 2026 podcast

Or a podcast of just words struck out by the Declaration of Independence.

You would get to sacred and undeniable, struck out, self evident, um, that all men are created equal.

Everyone.

Then you would get to um

subjects struck out was citizens.

Then you would get to an entire paragraph about the evils of slavery struck out to get South Carol South Carolina was not down uh Rutledge, as I recall.

Yeah.

And so here is

Not many people know this.

It's quite the study that change does not happen when people realize something is wrong.

Change often waits for a moment and ha and doesn't happen it's a war of convenience and opportunity.

So Jefferson

tried to be an abolitionist when he was like thirty years old.

It was so inextricably linked to the economy and so hard to deal with.

Everyone

there was a broad consensus that this is wrong, we don't know what to do with it, we don't know how to fix it.

And so what I would say in the kind of the riddle me this, first of all, it's an incredible thing to look around the world as you've always known it and say,

maybe it shouldn't be this way.

Like that is its own act of courage.

So for this group of founders to look at slavery and say, we're gonna go ahead and throw the gauntlet

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