John Irwin

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The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe · 492: Jon Erwin—Young Washington · 30 Jun 2026 podcast

But in studying the American Revolution and in studying books, I'm like, what is the difference?

I think one of the defining differences is you had a group of people that actually had true intellectual curiosity to find out what works and what was true.

And I think what we've lost is we just

There was partisan divides then.

In some cases you could argue it was even worse.

We don't have duels anymore.

But uh maybe we should.

Maybe we should.

Maybe we should bring duels back.

You heard it here.

But but it's uh but basically um but basically even like Jefferson and Adams dying fifty years to the day after the document that they co wrote after they were on each end of a partisan divide and then wrote letters to each other and then died on the same day of the document they wrote fifty years later, it just

shows that they could win each other over

they had the courage to be wrong and to admit that they were wrong and to evolve in their thinking and they had true intellectual curiosity and I think a basic respect for the other side and a basic loyalty to the overall idea despite their differences.

And we would do well to remember that as well.

Like we're not each other's enemy, even when we differ.

Um we're just trying to figure this thing out.

Although there is nothing like a great conversation.

Many of them have been had across this table.

So I'm just going to sit then.

To sit here.

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