John Kiriakou

And he got angry and he said, look, it took everything I had just to not lose my security clearance.

And I said, oh, you're afraid of them.

You're not overseeing them.

You're afraid of them.

And he walked away from me.

But I was right.

He was afraid of them.

They're all afraid.

And so they just tow the line.

That was Chuck Schumer.

He said, they have nine ways from Sunday to make your life miserable.

I think that's right.

But think of it this way, too.

I'm going to tell you a little funny little anecdote about one of my promotion panels.

I had been working with a psychologist in the CIA's counterterrorism center to come up with outside-the-box ideas on how to recruit spies to steal secrets.

And she happened to also sit on my promotion panel.

And she said in my promotion panel, in great support of my promotion, she said, John Kiriakou will come up with 40 different ideas for an operation.

36 of them are insane, but four of them are going to be really good.

So imagine sitting around the table and somebody comes up with an idea to put an explosive in Fidel Castro's cigar.

Well, that's a stupid idea.