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John Kiriakou

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

You just never know.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

Thinking nobody's going to come.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

Nobody's going to see it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

And then he ran off.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

So we knew there was this guy out there planning this big thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

And his name was Mukhtar.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

Abu Zubaydah laughed at us and said, you don't know who Mukhtar is?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

And Abu Zubaydah said, his name is Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

That's the first time we ever heard that name.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

We didn't have any documents in any files that were about any guy named Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

But that was the very first time we were able to piece it all together.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

And it was thanks to Abu Zubaydah, in turn, thanks to Ali Soufan's treating Abu Zubaydah with respect.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

But on August the 1st, George Tenet, 2002, George Tenet went to the White House and he asked the president for reasons that have never been made clear.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

He asked the president to turn over primacy to the CIA.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

and the CIA director, Robert Mueller, to his credit, he knew exactly what was gonna come.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

Not only withdrew FBI personnel from the secret site, he withdrew FBI personnel from the country that the secret site was in.