John Kiriakou
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Podcast Appearances
Thinking nobody's going to come.
Nobody's going to see it.
So we knew there was this guy out there planning this big thing.
And his name was Mukhtar.
Abu Zubaydah laughed at us and said, you don't know who Mukhtar is?
And Abu Zubaydah said, his name is Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
That's the first time we ever heard that name.
We didn't have any documents in any files that were about any guy named Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
But that was the very first time we were able to piece it all together.
And it was thanks to Abu Zubaydah, in turn, thanks to Ali Soufan's treating Abu Zubaydah with respect.
But on August the 1st, George Tenet, 2002, George Tenet went to the White House and he asked the president for reasons that have never been made clear.
He asked the president to turn over primacy to the CIA.
and the CIA director, Robert Mueller, to his credit, he knew exactly what was gonna come.
Not only withdrew FBI personnel from the secret site, he withdrew FBI personnel from the country that the secret site was in.