John Kiriakou

We can't just hold these guys indefinitely.

So I called CIA headquarters, the counterterrorism center, and I said, the PACs came to me and said that the jail is full.

We were keeping everybody in the Rawalpindi jail outside of Islamabad.

They said the jail is literally full and they want these guys out.

What do you want me to do with them?

And they said, we want you to put them on a C-12 cargo plane

a transport plane and send them to Guantanamo.

And I said, Guantanamo, Cuba?

And they said, yes.

I said, why in the world would we send them to Cuba?

And they said, and I thought this was a great idea, we're going to keep them in Cuba for two or three weeks until we can figure out which federal district court to charge them with.

The idea was that we would charge all of them with terrorism or conspiracy or providing material support for terrorism.

And we would charge them in Washington, New York, or Pennsylvania because that's where the fourth plane went down.

I said, that's a great idea.

loaded everybody onto a series of C-12s, flew them to Guantanamo.

We put 770 people there at one point.

But then someone in Vice President Dick Cheney's office observed, you know, they don't really have any rights in Guantanamo.

It's ours.

We control it.

But it's not American territory.