John Kiriakou
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And here we are 24 years later.
And they're still there.
at the height we had like 770, I think was when it was at its most full.
You can see it in the distance.
We went from, I think you can't cross Cuban airspace.
No, because when we were catching guys, we had not yet implemented the torture program.
So the torture program was conceived and approved in October of 2001.
I got to Pakistan in January of 2002.
And we're like, what do we do with these guys?
The FBI is there with us.
You can't hit them or you can't do anything to them.
If they don't talk, then okay, we just send them to Guantanamo.
Well, because remember, I became the executive assistant to the deputy director.
Oh, so you would see the reports coming back.
You see all the cables coming back in?
Most of the news outlets that I talk to, they make the biggest deal out of waterboarding.