John Kiriakou

After all, just this weekend, the Iranians were able to bomb Dimona, which is where the Israelis enriched their own uranium for their own nuclear weapons, which apparently we can neither confirm nor deny the existence of.

Israelis are being killed.

We have no idea how many because it's now a crime punishable by up to 10 years in prison if you reveal any bomb damage assessment information, including the number of Israeli casualties.

So how do we get out of this?

If we decide just to come home, where does that leave the Israelis?

It leaves the Israelis standing alone and they can't abide that.

And so these professors believe that there's this real danger of the Israelis finally using a nuclear weapon.

I was shocked when I heard it, to tell you the truth, because I respect these guys.

I've known them for decades, and these are serious thinkers.

But they were adamant that nuclear weapons are the final taboo and that part of the Israeli calculation is if they break that taboo, it'll free up other countries to use nuclear weapons, which might not be a bad thing.

And I said, how is using a nuclear weapon not a bad thing?

And the response was fascinating.

One of them said to me,

We're not talking about North Korea in this conversation.

Do you know why?

Because North Korea has a nuclear weapon.

So nobody is going to mess with North Korea.

The only reason that the United States and Israel attacked Iran is because they didn't yet have a nuclear weapon.

If they had, there would have been no war because that would have been the deterrent.

Yeah, it does.